Hugh and I talked about the Convio branch. We saw that the Facebook guys have their fork on a Facebook account, and we want to do the same thing. So that means we'll move the convio branch to a convio account. Although the real goal is to get Convio onto master.
Moving the repo from my personal account to a Watir project account is also on my roadmap, although it is after getting us to join the Software Freedom Conservancy. I spoke with Bradley Kuhn in SF -- he's the director of the SFC. The revised deadline is the end of the month. Not sure if we'll be able to make it. There is a ton of stuff that needs to be collected, if any one wants to help get the ball rolling. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Joining+the+Software+Freedom+Conservancy I'm still in the process of replacing my laptop and ipad. I think you all saw the news that Marek was in fact able to recover some of the Watir Day video. He posted excerpts from me and Charley's talk ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS3yNY9hpx0) and has a lot footage from Hugh's talk and the Facebook talk, including the shot where they are standing in front of a slide that says "Facebook uses Watir". Still need to get slides from Simon and Alok and Brian uploaded to the wiki. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Watir+Day+Presentations Bret 2011/4/11 Charley Baker <charley.ba...@gmail.com> > Sorry to hear about the laptops, what a loss of equipment and the > intangibles like footage from Watir Day, personal code/files etc. I'm > definitely guilty of not watching my own stuff closely. Though tempting to > have this old thing stolen, I need to at least make sure I'm backed up > regularly and covered through insurance. > > I figured as much on the Convio branch, I'm not touching it, though we > probably should move it off to somewhere else. I suppose we could do a basic > Watir account on Github. That might make it easier for finances? Not sure, > but there are precedents - Rails and others. The other two branches were > merged back and didn't need to live anymore. I think we were figuring out > git at the time. > > I'll talk to Alok, their pull request should be easy to apply to current > 1.8.1, I briefly looked at it. I've not had to deal with localization to > that extent, but it's something that comes up often and there are tests. > > With the money we currently have, we should look at CI, getting some EC2 > instances, since as you mentioned it's getting hard to have all the > environments we should have for development, the one that's biting me now is > issues in IE9 which only installs on Windows7. > > Anyhow, I'd love additional feedback on this or the individual points that > I listed, many of which need to be fleshed out. I want to send updates on > some of the this to the mailing list for Watir Day and copy the > watir-general list. > > I suppose we could move this discussion to the wtr-dev list as well. > Instead of adding more people. Thanks Zeljko. :) > > Cheers, > > Charley Baker > Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com > > > 2011/4/11 Bret Pettichord <b...@pettichord.com> > >> The zero-index branch is about 80% done. I was working on it some last >> week. The issue I was working with at that point was making the array >> operator also behave as a zero index. On Monday, I'll find out about when my >> laptop might be replaced. Now I'm in the same boat as Charley -- not having >> a good laptop for development of Watir. >> >> I was hoping to get some of the Convio changes merged into trunk, that is >> why that is there. This is actually where we maintain the version we use at >> Convio so please don't delete it. This is both the project repo as well as >> my personal repo; perhaps a reason to move the official project repo into >> another account? We could also perhaps move the branch to Hugh's account. >> Since he and Marek work on this with me, I am looping him into this >> discussion. >> >> Branches should be deleted when they have been merged back in or >> abandoned. >> >> We need to sync up with the Facebook folks as well. I saw a pull request >> from Alok recently. Looks like he wants us to patch 1.6.5. What do you guys >> think about that? >> >> Bret >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Charley Baker >> <charley.ba...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Yeah, agreed for now. We also need to make a push for the 0 index branch. >>> I've deleted some of the other branches, and would like to delete the Convio >>> branch. Yah/Nay? >>> >>> >>> And maybe focus some work with people to get the zero index branch pulled >>> in. We can also push on getting sync'd up with the watir-spec branch. >>> Charley Baker >>> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Jari Bakken <jari.bak...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> If the goal is to bring 1.X closer to watir-webdriver, we should >>>> target the watir2 branch of watirspec rather than master. I'd be happy >>>> to set up and get HEAD running against the watir2 branch. I think that >>>> would be a good starting point to move things forward (obviously >>>> discussing the bigger changes along the way). Fixing potential >>>> failures against watirspec's master branch seems like a waste of time >>>> to me. >>>> >>>> Obviously a big part of making those specs pass will be 0-indexing, >>>> but it will at least be well-tested without having to change the >>>> existing test suite too much (since it will be configurable). >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> Jari >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Charley Baker < >>>> charley.ba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Oh absolutely, that was a quick draft. Btw, just sent this on to Jarmo >>>> who >>>> > couldn't unfortunately make it this week, also copying Jari as well. >>>> There's >>>> > a lot here that's left off and needs to be fleshed out. I also >>>> definitely >>>> > want to spend some time with Watirspec, and drive out the >>>> inconsistencies >>>> > and failures. This is more of a braindump to get it down than anything >>>> else, >>>> > and getting people involved and the discussion going. >>>> > >>>> > Charley Baker >>>> > Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Jarmo <jarm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> What about development of Watir itself? What about compat with >>>> >> Watir-Webdriver? Watirspec? >>>> >> J. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Charley Baker < >>>> charley.ba...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> fyi, forgot to send this to you. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> >>> From: Charley Baker <charley.ba...@gmail.com> >>>> >>> Date: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:35 PM >>>> >>> Subject: Follow up on Watir day >>>> >>> To: Bret Pettichord <b...@pettichord.com>, Ċ½eljko Filipin >>>> >>> <zeljko.fili...@gmail.com>, Alister Scott <alister.sc...@gmail.com>, >>>> Tim >>>> >>> Koopmans <tim.ko...@gmail.com> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> After coming back from Watir Day and Selenium Conf, I want to keep >>>> the >>>> >>> momentum going. There are several things we can do to keep this up, >>>> and make >>>> >>> sure the enthusiasm for testing keeps up. Some of that depends on >>>> hitting >>>> >>> the email list and some we can do as part of the project on our main >>>> mailing >>>> >>> lists. Here's a quick summary of my thoughts: >>>> >>> * Blogs - related to watir and automation testing (CI, ATDD...) >>>> >>> * IRC >>>> >>> * Getting directly involved - Design skills, documentation, pull >>>> >>> requests, etc - we need some documentation around these areas >>>> >>> * Podcasts - contact Zeljko or he may contact you :) >>>> >>> * Answering questions on the mailing list >>>> >>> * Joining the dev mailing list - prioritizing JIRA tickets >>>> >>> * Testing prereleases on various OSes/browser combinations. >>>> >>> * Help with setting up and maintaining CI. (we don't have it now but >>>> >>> should be able to do this with our current funds) >>>> >>> * Funding - getting more funds, and working through how to deal with >>>> what >>>> >>> we have already >>>> >>> * Watir Day next year and around the world - Zeljko and the European >>>> day, >>>> >>> as well as what we want to do for next year - US and/or Europe >>>> >>> * Watir Grid - and how to run distributed tests >>>> >>> I'd be happy to send this out to the mailing list and dev list, >>>> possibly >>>> >>> the main list with some amendments to expand out the various areas, >>>> these >>>> >>> are the high level topics and I'd hope to get more information for >>>> specifics >>>> >>> on each from everyone. Let me know what you think. I want to send >>>> out >>>> >>> something in the next week. >>>> >>> Forward on at will if you think other people should be involved. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Cheers, >>>> >>> Charley Baker >>>> >>> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bret Pettichord >> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com >> >> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com >> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord >> >> > -- Bret Pettichord Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com Blog, www.testingwithvision.com Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
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