RE: [Wtr-general] Question - Why ruby?

[Walter Kruse]

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NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf ---- I have a similar story. I was fortunate enough to be able to use Robot, SAMIE and WATiR on the same project. A few months down the line and the scripts that run everyday are...WATiR ! Michael Kelly's article really got me using Ruby.   SAMIE is also very good, and the best about it is that Perl already has very mature supprt for DBI and it has Win32::GUITest. I still use Perl for all the database stuff. Ruby's DBI is not there yet. But I would like to use WATiR and Ruby more and more in the future. Unfortunately Ruby is as cryptic to me as Perl is to most people. I have looked at PAMIE too, as I am doing a series of tool reviews for the TestFOCUS magazine.   krgds Walter -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 04:31 To: wtr-general@rubyforge.org Subject: RE: [Wtr-general] Question - Why ruby? My 2 cents...for whatever it is worth.   I started using Python's PAMIE framework to automate.  However, the support was sporadic (the guy working on it was very busy and couldn't devote enough time to support the framework).  Eventually I ran into a roadblock with popups (ironic given the volume of messages on this subject)--the framework had not evolved enough to support this activity yet.  I also looked at SAMIE (way too cryptic), IEUnit (same roadblock as PAMIE) as well as a bout 15 other frameworks all boasting to have what I needed at a price.  Enter Ruby.  WATIR is by far the most complete web testing framework out here--that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.  And this forum is the most active and well supported that I have seen.  You can post a question and is just a short period of time get someone (most of the time the architects of the framework!) who will steer you in the right direct, give you a work around to get over any roadblocks, or add it to the framework if it doesn't currently exist.  That is the reason I switched and tell everyone interest (and those not) that Ruby is the way to go!  Save your money, get WATIR!   --Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raghu Venkataramana Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:28 PM To: wtr-general@rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [Wtr-general] Question - Why ruby?   Bret, Jonathan:   Thanks for these notes. I personally like Ruby's object oriented approach.   The only 'flip' I found about ruby that I find is the relatively scarce resources / documentation when compared to Python. Almost all searches point to a different version of the 'pragmatic programmer'. Are there other online resources that you guys could point me to? For example, when trying to do something with the Win32 API callbacks, I couldn't find much help.   Thanks Raghu   Bret Pettichord wrote:   > Perl encourages cryptic code, which makes it a bad choice. It also > lacks an interactive shell. >  > Python could work. Ruby was Brian Marick's choice and he was convinced > to switch from Python to Ruby when he sat with Dave Thomas and Andy > Hunt on a bus. >  > At 12:26 PM 7/31/2005, Raghu Venkataramana wrote: >  >> Hi All, >>  >> I was explaining to my friend about Watir and its nice capabilities. >> In the middle of the conversation he asked me as to why Watir uses >> Ruby, which is not as well known as Perl, Python or other scripting >> languages. Is there a special reason why Ruby is being used or is >> just incidental. >>  >> Thanks >> Raghu >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-general mailing list >> Wtr-general@rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-general >  >  > _____________________ >  Bret Pettichord >  www.pettichord.com >  > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-general mailing list > Wtr-general@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-general >    _______________________________________________ Wtr-general mailing list Wtr-general@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-general

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