Michael
In our project, developers use watir for validating a build --
basically regression testing to demonstrate that the build is viable
and worthy of deploying in the test environment. Testers use a
disfferent tool. Their job is made simpler because they don't wate
time on a build that has one of those dumb breakages that stops
testing because a page gives Error 500 or some essential feature is
broken and prevents accessing a whole area of functionality. It
automates what developers needed to do manually before. It makes life
better for everyone; developers dislike regression testing; testers
hate broken builds.
John


On 8/18/05, Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> My developer chums and I use Watir as part of our test-driven development. 
> As such, we're giddy to be able to finally write unit tests for the UI.  But
> the presence of these developer written UI test scripts raises questions
> about what impact, if any, they will have on what our QA engineer will focus
> on.  It's tempting to suggest that there is a whole set of functionality
> that they simply don't have to test manually anymore.  But clearly this is
> just wrong, wrong, wrong.  The developers will only write tests for the
> things they think of, and we all know that developers tend to be optimistic
> about their code.  In addition, the unit tests themselves can have flaws
> that cause a test to pass when the code is not, in fact, functioning
> properly. 
>   
> So, it seems that we still need the QA engineer to do a full manual QA pass
> on the software.  At what point do these scripts allieviate some of the QA
> engineer's manual testing burden? 
>   
> Thanks for your thoughts, 
>   
> -=michael=- 
>  
> 
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> Michael Kelly 
> Sr. Software Engineer 
> Eleven Wireless Inc. - The Possibilities are Wireless 
> http://www.elevenwireless.com 
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