Good Morning Dave,

In Canton, Ohio, we specify that if a client is in the process of going
bankrupt or if they have a bankruptcy that is not discharged, we are unable
to assist with a loan.  All bankruptcy must the discharged and finalized.
This is to avoid any potential problems.
If she cannot afford any additional filing fees required for the Trustees
services, can she afford maintenance, insurance and a car payment?  This is
a few questions that would be running through my head.  I would be careful.


Robin Seemann 

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Subject: [WTW] Chapter 13 bankruptcy


Hello all,

I've run into a car loan case in which the applicant is currently making
payments for Chapter 13 bankruptcy. After her interview, she discovered
language in her Chapter 13 document (filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court,
District of Hawaii, p.6 under "C. Debtor's Duties") stating:

"...Debtor shall not incur any new debt exceeding $1,000 without the prior
written approval of Trustee or order of the court."

The circumstances of this applicant's case can make a good case for loan
approval from a Ways to Work perspective. She says she can't afford any
attorney fees if that's what's needed to ask permission from the Trustee.

My questions:
1. What's the procedure for asking permission from the Trustee?

2. Are there any loopholes around this?

3. Purely for informational purposes, what would be the consequences to
lender and borrower if a loan is obtained without permission?

Thank you,

Dave Washburn
Consuelo Foundation


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