On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:01:57 +0100, Anne van Kesteren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, of course. But if nothing tells us when we make mistakes, we can't learn from them (which is why I think browsers somehow warning about errors is a very good idea).

They do. There's an error console. We can't show errors in the UI. End users don't care about that.

If there is absolutely no indicator in regular browser UI, authors won't know when there's a long list of errors waiting for them in the error console.

If authors don't care, nothing will help them.

Well, I care, but I don't find Opera's Error Console any use for spotting errors - I just can't keep it open all the time, and without that I can be blissfully unaware.

It might even be useful to some users - especially non-technical decision-makers could spot buggy tools and barely working pages. Having warnings noticable by users might be an incentive for authors to fix errors even when page _seems_ to work without problems.

Over 95% of the pages out there have syntax errors. Almost no page is conforming. It would just be an icon you would get to see for every page you view and have no clue what it's for.

I know. I'm not trying to get whole Internet to validate. In my previous e-mail I've stated: "It should also be rare enough (not shown when error can be recovered from in a cross-browser fashion) so it won't lose its meaning and get ignored."

Non-conformance may be reported in the console, but the indicator in browser chrome should be reserved only for really important problems that are blockers for future specifications and/or can't be implemented in a cross-browser fashion (like innerHTML used on mis-nested <form> that has been mentioned).

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regards, Kornel Lesinski


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