On Sep 26, 2007, at 1:55 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote:
thanks, dont have james' email address.
feel ashamed to admit this but have rarely used IRC. can you suggest
a good client?
What OS do you use? On Mac OS X, I would suggest Colloquy. On Windows
I don't have a great suggestion, but I am told XChat and HydraIRC are
acceptable. On Linux there is once again XChat. (All should be easily
findable with a Google query) I'd be happy to help you get set up if
you'd like. Leaving this message in the archives in case anyone else
would like IRC client recommendations, but perhaps we should follow
up personally if you would like assistance getting set up.
Regards,
Maciej
On 26/09/2007, Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey Steven,
On Sep 26, 2007, at 1:44 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote:
Hi Maciej, presuming you are othermaciej
noticed your comments about alt on the IRC
Indeed, c'est moi.
some info about some screen readers (jaws and window eyes) that may
be informative:
if there is no alt attribute or an empty alt="" on an image, but a
title attribute title="poot", title attribute content will be read.
for window eyes only if there is no alt or title on an image but
the containing element has a title it will be announced
<a title="poot"><img></a>
<othermaciej> jgraham_: do you think a title="" on the link might
be an acceptable alternative in such cases?
# [10:33] <othermaciej> also, presumably if alt were required in
such cases alt="" would be disallowed
# [10:34] <Dashiva> othermaciej: I think in the end non-
constructive people will be written off based on their non-
constructive ideas, even if the idea is anonymized
# [10:35] <jgraham_> othermaciej: Yeah, my other thought was to
define that in the case where an image was the sole content of a
link and the link had a title, the link's title would be the alt
text for the image in the absence of any significant alt text (or
something to that effect)
# [10:35] <hsivonen> jgraham_: yes, in practice, alt text like that
is probably good idea if other text isn't available
Feel free to jump on IRC and join in the conversation if you'd like.
You may also want to direct this information to James, who
apparently is trying to come up with proposals to improve the spec
for alt.
Regards,
Maciej
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