Hi Gregory,

I like everything you proposed here. I would only add two things.

1) It would be nice to have issue-tracker issues handled by WG member review like the sections of the draft. This way we ask at least two WG members to volunteer to review each issue and provide a summary report on their opinions on it. If need be the chairs could also appoint someone to review if the chairs felt the volunteers didn't provide enough balance.

2) I'm not sure your proposal requires bugzilla at all then. I think the Wiki actually serves as a very good tool situated between the issue-tracker on one side and the WG’s email, IRC and telecon deliberations/discussions. I've tried to consistently setup each of these issues I've raised to provide a quick mailto link to contribute to the WG discussion and another quick email search link to find the messages with that same subject. This provides a nice way to link the wiki to the email discussions (I'm thinking of trying to do something similar for IRC). Email and IRC provide a nice persistent log of the discussions while the Wiki pages can evolve to reflect the feedback and criticisms form the WG. The Issue-tracker then provides a nice mechanism to stay on top of what's going on.

Other than those two points, I fully support your suggestion.

Take care,
Rob



On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:

aloha, josh!

my open question to/request of the chairs -- which i made sure was logged in IRC at today's telecon -- is as follows: when one opens an issue, it is not marked as "OPEN", but rather as "RAISED" -- can the chairs in their capacity as chairs, therefor, issue a formal statement to the effect that:

* RAISED equals PROPOSED - proposal will be discussed on list and in
 at least 1 telecon before marked as OPEN or quashed

* OPEN equals UNDER ACTIVE CONSIDERATION BY WG

* CLOSE equals Editors/Chairs consider issue resolved - note that
 issues should be closed only after being addressed at a telecon, so
 that if there is dissent over the resolution, it can be logged and
 objectors should be given an opportunity to convince the chairs that
 the issue should not be closed

or provide the rationale for not considering "RAISED" issues as "PROPOSED"?

bugzilla could then be reserved for micro-issues and detailed discussion
thereof, thus avoiding the bifurcation of feedback streams that using
bugzilla to propose issues would cause...

gregory
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Sent: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:43:34 +0100
Subject: Re: discretion & the issue tracker (was Re: discretion in adding
issues)

Steven Faulkner wrote:
Hi all,
Why can't there be a 'proposal tracker' implemented that is open to
anyone in the working group to add proposals to, via a form perhaps
that asks for certain information about the proposal, so it can then
be evaluated and debated by WG members?

That sounds like a good idea to me also.

Cheers

Josh
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