On 1/25/2012 8:04 PM, Glenn Adams wrote:
For what it's worth, I did not interpret Ian's original remark as
saying he didn't follow W3C process; though I can see how someone may
have parsed it in that fashion.
Thanks for the clarification.
In the original thread, nobody was claiming or denying following
accepted W3C process. Rather, I was suggesting that certain clauses in
the process document be referenced in a proposed warning to add to the
DOM2 spec(s). I continue to feel that approach is warranted and
consistent with similar statements of status found elsewhere in W3C specs.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch
<mailto:i...@hixie.ch>> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Jeff Jaffe wrote:
>
> 2. Nonetheless, for situations that he is wearing his hat as
Editor within a
> W3C Working Group, he agrees to follow the W3C Process.
My original statement was: "Nobody really follows the W3C process.
Some
claim to, others (such as myself) do not."
To be more explicit: Nobody always follows the W3C process. Some
claim to,
others do not claim to. I do not claim to. Those who claim to tend to
bring up the process when it helps their political needs, and
ignore it
when that is more convenient. Those who do not claim to tend to
argue for
their cases on technical merit instead. Bjoern has in the past written
long missives documenting the many ways that people who claim to
follow
the process blithely ignore it when it's convenient.
That isn't to say that everything I do violates the W3C process.
On the
contrary, sometimes I follow it more closely than W3C staff (e.g. the
process requires chaters to describe the milestones for
deliverables; W3C
staff usually instead write woefully optimistic fiction even when
I have
provided them with realistic predictions).
I do not agree to follow the W3C process blindly.
I follow it, like everyone else, exactly to the extent that I think it
requires us to do the right thing for the Web. When the process
requires
us to do something bad for the Web, I ignore it.
(This is why, for example, I do not participate in the work
required to
make copies of the specs I work on for the TR/ page.)
