Markus, as you saw, we have to find some time for the CSS/EPUB meeting first (see my separate mail), and I would propose to have that settled first (this is a commitment we made to our WS participants). We can then try to find a time for that end of April early May. How does that sound?
Ivan On Apr 9, 2013, at 18:45 , Markus Gylling <markus.gyll...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ivan, > >> I were wondering whether it makes sense to have an informal telco, a bit >> like the CSS one, on HTML related issues. > > > Yes, this would be a good thing. Did you have a timeframe in mind, I guess we > should target some time before summer kicks in? > > /markus > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Ivan Herman <i...@w3.org> wrote: > >> Markus, >> >> I know you were on vacations, so you may have missed this mail: Robin and I >> were wondering whether it makes sense to have an informal telco, a bit like >> the CSS one, on HTML related issues. It would involve you and IDPF people in >> that area, and probably the current editors of HTML5. >> >> WDYT? >> >> Ivan >> >> On Apr 4, 2013, at 01:27 , Markus Gylling <markus.gyll...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Robin, >>> thanks for your email and pleased to meet you too! >>> >>>> That is just one topic amongst potentially several that I would like to >>>> discuss (but there is no rush). In general, I am interested in features >>>> that EPUB adds that aren't available on the vanilla "browser" web. I >>>> believe that those should provide use cases for additions to HTML. (Note >>>> that I'm not saying that HTML should just import them as is — but I do >>>> think that we should strive for convergence and I want to help with that.) >>> >>> Glad to hear this -- and also agree that among the topics that relate to >>> further harmonisation between EPUB and the OWP, usage of @role is just one >>> of many items, and @role is not necessarily the sole or ideal solution the >>> particular "problem" of structural inflection either. That said, @role is >>> arguably the closest relative that we have for @epub:type in W3C space >>> right now, so we are definitely interested in continuing this discussion. >>> >>>> The first questions I received were about how much this was implemented in >>>> actual readers, i.e. how actual implementations change their behaviour >>>> (compared to an unmodified HTML engine) based on these types. If you have >>>> any way in which I could easily find such information, it would be most >>>> helpful. >>> >>> Right. There are not many demoable implementations of specific reading >>> system behaviours at this point (beyond the footnote behaviours in ibooks >>> that everybody seems to know about). But there are several concrete (and >>> general, as opposed to AT-specific) use cases for it in the pipeline, >>> including as Ivan mentions the identification of structures such as >>> glossaries, dictionaries and indexes. I will keep you updated as >>> implementations emerge, both general and AT-specific. >>> >>> For now, /markus >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Robin Berjon <ro...@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Markus, >>>> >>>> On 27/03/2013 14:49 , Ivan Herman wrote: >>>>> Robin, please meat Markus Gylling, CTO of IDPF and also possible >>>>> chair of the upcoming Digital Publishing IG. >>>> >>>> Pleased to meet you! >>>> >>>>> Markus, I had some discussions with Robin on the question we were >>>>> discussing a while ago you and me, on whether the @role attribute >>>>> could be used in EPUB3.01 to replace the current idpf:type attribute >>>>> for, say, glossary items. I just forward you the relevant issues; I >>>>> let you two discuss the technical details, if any... >>>> >>>> That is just one topic amongst potentially several that I would like to >>>> discuss (but there is no rush). In general, I am interested in features >>>> that EPUB adds that aren't available on the vanilla "browser" web. I >>>> believe that those should provide use cases for additions to HTML. (Note >>>> that I'm not saying that HTML should just import them as is — but I do >>>> think that we should strive for convergence and I want to help with that.) >>>> >>>> Concerning @role, I started discussing the potential usage of it from EPUB >>>> types. The first questions I received were about how much this was >>>> implemented in actual readers, i.e. how actual implementations change >>>> their behaviour (compared to an unmodified HTML engine) based on these >>>> types. If you have any way in which I could easily find such information, >>>> it would be most helpful. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon >>> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +31-641044153 >> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >> >> >> >> >> > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
