IGLX is dead? I think you are going to find a lot of people to be very shocked by that statement. Something really has to replace it, and something definitely will, because many many users are using IGLX right now. Not everyone using OpenGL is playing games and looking for fast refresh rates. Scientists at the national laboratories and other research facilities are using IGLX every day to get their work done.
There are lots of applications that draw with OpenGL, such as plotting software for scientific applications like TecPlot or IDL, lots of engineering software, etc, where scientists need to display their data on a remote cluster back to their desktop. It's highly inconvenient to shuttle their data back to the desktop. Other applications draw things like buttons and other GUI elements with OpenGL. IGLX is not as fast as direct mode GL, but software rendering is incredibly slow, often by 10X or more, because of the incredibly inefficient asynchronous X11 rendering nightmare. My guess is that if IGLX goes away, people will switch to RealVNC or TurboGL, which are VNC technologies that support OpenGL in hardware and then copy pixels around. These solutions require users to spin up their own X11 server, which is a pretty heavy weight solution, but it's how we do it where I work when necessary. > On May 17, 2016, at 11:16 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> On May 17, 2016, at 22:42, Rich Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hmm, what is going to replace IGLX? > > Nothing. It's been pretty much dead for years. > >> How are people going to display OpenGL graphics over remote X11 if not by >> GLX? Sorry if this is offtopic. > > They're not. It's not efficient. You can use software rendering if you need > to. > >> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all when >>>> I tried it in 2.7.9. Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote >>>> linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >>> >>> That is IGLX. >>> >>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my >>>> problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>>>> reasons. >>>>> >>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX >>>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression >>>>> in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>>>> discouraged). >>>>> >>>>> --Jeremy >>>>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was >>>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered >>>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing >>>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt >>>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't >>>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape >>>>>> is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>>>>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>>>>> >>>>>> Many Thanks! >>>>>> Christopher >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of >>>>>> the conversation... >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Christopher, >>>>>> >>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. >>>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working >>>>>> on that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly >>>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have >>>>>> nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. >>>>>> Good luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Magda. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I >>>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with >>>>>> 2.7.8. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I >>>>>> just install it over the previous version? >>>>>> >>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it >>>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>>>>> >>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Christopher >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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