Just responding to the couple responses received so far: >> … I had concluded it was completely abandoned... > > In 2017, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <jerem...@gmail.com > <mailto:jerem...@gmail.com>> was very active concerning XQuartz. > There were concern about the slowness of XQuartz as compared to Windows or > Linux equivalents. He gave the following explanation: > >>> There is a known issue there, I believe with Yosemite and newer versions of >>> macOS (maybe Mavericks+, maybe ElCap+, I forget exactly). The issue is >>> below us in CoreGraphics and won't really be fixed on Apple's side as doing >>> so would fix this case but cause bad performance penalties for every single >>> other case out there. The real solution is to get XQuartz off of >>> libXplugin and start using more modern macOS APIs (eg: finishing up >>> libxcwm), but there's not really anyone actively working on that right now.
I'm aware of this - those CoreGraphics changes (and the inability of both XQuartz and MacPorts to work around them) have left my usage of X11 as a slooow and painful experience when using the Cadence IC layout software. For that use case, doing IC layout like playing that old Mac game Crystal Quest (which is really showing my age!). Jeremy has commented that XQuartz needs to go the path of Wayland for that to ever get fixed, but that's a whole new thing and I'd guess unlikely to happen in my remaining working lifetime... > > In another message he said that a new version was 50% ready but with only > retired developers at work. > > What is your experience with MacPorts ? Pretty much exactly the same as XQuartz. I keep hoping I'll eventually notice something different or that things get snappier, but no such luck so far. > Is there any problem with installing MacPorts side by side to Xquartz and > then switching between the two ? (very useful for development/deployment > tests) I haven't tried running XQuartz and MacPorts side by side - I always assumed that would be asking for trouble so I completely uninstalled XQuartz before jumping across to MacPorts. > > Regards > On 2021.0320, at 15:20, macleod <macl...@sci.utah.edu> wrote: > > Thanks Mick, > > I think we need to start a slob-user club (-: Like you, I have a modest > need for X11, in my case to run the version of emacs I like best and my > favorite terminal emulator, Eterm. x11-sl...@lists.apple.com <mailto:x11-sl...@lists.apple.com> :-) > > So any practical experience or advice on whether to jump back to XQuartz > would be much appreciated. I would prefer not to take the time to be the > pioneer on this one. > > Running BigSur on a Mac mini with M1 processor. > > Thanks! > Rob
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