In my case, from a terminal app, echo $DISPLAY gives /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.UgncRwaiWo/org.xquartz:0
I get the same thing from within an xterm app. Also, if create an xterm from terminal, that will bring up XQuartz as the app in the menu, and it does show terminal as an option under the Applications menu, but the command-N is grayed out (though the menu item “Terminal” is not grayed out). Incidentally, for the person that said the menu option is no longer there, there’s also a “Customize” menu option under Applications. If you open that up, it lets you add X-window commands to the menu. In my case, it shows Terminal/xterm/n. To test it out, I added Clock/xclock/ and I could launch the clock from the menu. Sadly, removing the xterm option and then adding it back in didn’t solve the problem. > On Jun 18, 2025, at 2:00 PM, x11-users-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: > > Send X11-users mailing list submissions to > x11-users@lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!V9tAQH823MJvpIBI6gZgjoJPC13WPCpPPzhGYlN6mfUi6ITuzbDIt3DeJjv1rc9KWzyAddsNuRFXSMC0iE1wvZJkNmL62dSXS30$ > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > x11-users-requ...@lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > x11-users-ow...@lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of X11-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: X11-users Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8 (David L Chopp) > 2. Re: xterm fails (Paul Gilmartin) > 3. Re: xterm fails (Tom Lane) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 14:48:51 +0000 > From: David L Chopp <ch...@northwestern.edu> > To: "x11-users@lists.apple.com" <x11-users@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: X11-users Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8 > Message-ID: <f0119193-838d-4d40-b36c-8c7d7e40f...@northwestern.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > All good questions. From the terminal app, I can run xlogo, xterm, xclock > successfully. One thing I do notice is that from the XQuartz menu if I try to > create a new xterm, it seems like it tries to create a new window, but it?s > immediately gone again. It?s only a flicker, so hard to say if that?s true. > From the xterm window I can also create a new xterm. > >> On Jun 17, 2025, at 2:00?PM, x11-users-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: >> >> Send X11-users mailing list submissions to >> x11-users@lists.apple.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!R3PT3lbfoFWIqUVpfRAirSPiZ6FlgPfGewTb2UY7lOXIacuE6Xdyg31I8tgiu4Z8DmK2B1mQDIYl3tq1krq4GQBABAQCRR9K9JU$ >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> x11-users-requ...@lists.apple.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> x11-users-ow...@lists.apple.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of X11-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. xterm fails (David L Chopp) >> 2. Re: xterm fails (Paul Gilmartin) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 14:53:36 +0000 >> From: David L Chopp <ch...@northwestern.edu> >> To: "x11-users@lists.apple.com" <x11-users@lists.apple.com> >> Subject: xterm fails >> Message-ID: <7275a864-b777-4fe0-ac31-5df3cbd4d...@northwestern.edu> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I?ve run into an issue with Xquartz. After a recent reboot I can no longer >> get a terminal window to appear using XQuartz. The X windows seems to be >> working, I can use the terminal app and remote log in to a linux machine and >> pop up a local window, but I just can?t bring up a terminal locally. It?s >> not horrible, I can use the terminal app instead locally, just wondering if >> there?s any other nasty surprises in store for me. I should mention, this is >> on a Mac Mini M1 running OSX 15.5. I also have a MacBook Pro running the >> same OS and XQuartz works normally there, so I don?t think it?s related to >> the OS version. Thanks for any ideas? >> >> Dave >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things >> ~Henri Poincare >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> David Chopp >> Engineering Sciences and Applied Mathematics >> Northwestern University >> E-mail: ch...@northwestern.edu >> Phone: (847)-491-8391 >> Fax: (847)-491-2178 >> Homepage: http://people.esam.northwestern.edu/chopp >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/archives/x11-users/attachments/20250617/b2963dcf/attachment-0001.htm__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!R3PT3lbfoFWIqUVpfRAirSPiZ6FlgPfGewTb2UY7lOXIacuE6Xdyg31I8tgiu4Z8DmK2B1mQDIYl3tq1krq4GQBABAQCRwJAfBM$ >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: smime.p7s >> Type: application/pkcs7-signature >> Size: 1659 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/archives/x11-users/attachments/20250617/b2963dcf/attachment-0001.bin__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!R3PT3lbfoFWIqUVpfRAirSPiZ6FlgPfGewTb2UY7lOXIacuE6Xdyg31I8tgiu4Z8DmK2B1mQDIYl3tq1krq4GQBABAQCRvmrsw4$ >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:50:51 -0600 >> From: Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> >> To: x11-users@lists.apple.com >> Subject: Re: xterm fails >> Message-ID: <10b4dbbc-2777-42c9-8f3c-ff9a2efce...@aim.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> On 6/17/25 08:53, David L Chopp via X11-users wrote: >>> I?ve run into an issue with Xquartz. After a recent reboot I can no longer >>> get a terminal window to appear using XQuartz. The X windows seems to be >>> working, I can use the terminal app and remote log in to a linux machine >>> and pop up a local window, but I just can?t bring up a terminal locally. >>> It?s not horrible, I can use the terminal app instead locally, just >>> wondering if there?s any other nasty surprises in store for me. I should >>> mention, this is on a Mac Mini M1 running OSX 15.5. I also have a MacBook >>> Pro running the same OS and XQuartz works normally there, so I don?t think >>> it?s related to the OS version. Thanks for any ideas? >>> ... >> On both wystems: >> o What terminal client? xterm? >> o What does "type xterm" show? >> o Same for other clients: xlogo, xclock, ... >> o do they work? >> >> (For me, on one MBP, Xquartz works on two accounts, but crashes on a third. >> >> -- >> gil >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X11-users mailing list >> X11-users@lists.apple.com >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!R3PT3lbfoFWIqUVpfRAirSPiZ6FlgPfGewTb2UY7lOXIacuE6Xdyg31I8tgiu4Z8DmK2B1mQDIYl3tq1krq4GQBABAQCRR9K9JU$ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of X11-users Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8 >> **************************************** > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I used to love mathematics for its own sake, and I still do, because it > allows > for no hypocrisy and no vagueness.... ~Stendhal > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > David Chopp > Engineering Sciences and Applied Mathematics > Northwestern University > E-mail: ch...@northwestern.edu > Phone: (847)-491-8391 > Fax: (847)-491-2178 > Homepage: http://people.esam.northwestern.edu/chopp > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/archives/x11-users/attachments/20250618/a7e09aab/attachment-0001.htm__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!V9tAQH823MJvpIBI6gZgjoJPC13WPCpPPzhGYlN6mfUi6ITuzbDIt3DeJjv1rc9KWzyAddsNuRFXSMC0iE1wvZJkNmL69Novaps$ > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smime.p7s > Type: application/pkcs7-signature > Size: 1659 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/archives/x11-users/attachments/20250618/a7e09aab/attachment-0001.bin__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!V9tAQH823MJvpIBI6gZgjoJPC13WPCpPPzhGYlN6mfUi6ITuzbDIt3DeJjv1rc9KWzyAddsNuRFXSMC0iE1wvZJkNmL6FTpzpG8$ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 11:19:59 -0600 > From: Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> > To: x11-users@lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: xterm fails > Message-ID: <b0d69a05-d054-4fb2-9088-8d69c60ef...@aim.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 6/18/25 08:48, David L Chopp via X11-users wrote: >> All good questions. From the terminal app, I can run xlogo, xterm, xclock >> successfully. One thing I do notice is that from the XQuartz menu if I try >> to create a new xterm, it seems like it tries to create a new window, but >> it?s immediately gone again. It?s only a flicker, so hard to say if that?s >> true. From the xterm window I can also create a new xterm. >> > On macOS 15.5 (24F74); XQuartz 2.8.5 (xorg-server 21.1.6) > I see no Terminal option in the XQuartz menubar pulldown. > I installed from the website, not with a package manager. > Is $DISPLAY propagated? > Are permissions set in ~/.ssh? > >>> On 6/17/25 08:53, David L Chopp via X11-users wrote: >>>> I?ve run into an issue with Xquartz. After a recent reboot I can no longer >>>> get a terminal window to appear using XQuartz. The X windows seems to be >>>> working, I can use the terminal app and remote log in to a linux machine >>>> and pop up a local window, but I just can?t bring up a terminal locally. >>>> It?s not horrible, I can use the terminal app instead locally, just >>>> wondering if there?s any other nasty surprises in store for me. I should >>>> mention, this is on a Mac Mini M1 running OSX 15.5. I also have a MacBook >>>> Pro running the same OS and XQuartz works normally there, so I don?t think >>>> it?s related to the OS version. Thanks for any ideas? >>>> ... >>> On both wystems: >>> o What terminal client? xterm? >>> o What does "type xterm" show? >>> o Same for other clients: xlogo, xclock, ... >>> o do they work? >>> >>> (For me, on one MBP, Xquartz works on two accounts, but crashes on a third. > > > -- > gil > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 13:43:53 -0400 > From: Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> > To: Paul Gilmartin via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: xterm fails > Message-ID: <1150955.1750268...@sss.pgh.pa.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Paul Gilmartin via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com> writes: >> On macOS 15.5 (24F74); XQuartz 2.8.5 (xorg-server 21.1.6) >> I see no Terminal option in the XQuartz menubar pulldown. > > I assume the OP is talking about launching Apple's Terminal app > from the Finder. > >> Is $DISPLAY propagated? > > Yeah, that is a good question. On my working setup, I see > > $ echo $DISPLAY > /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.m048HRnCwY/org.xquartz:0 > > in either Terminal or an xterm window. (The random-number part > of that no doubt changes when Xquartz is relaunched.) I'd suggest > verifying that you see something similar, and that your directory path > and pipe file are readable by whichever user you're running as. > > Another thing to check is whether xterm (which is in /opt/X11/bin/ > if you installed Xquartz normally) is in your $PATH. A plausible > theory perhaps is that /opt/X11/bin is in $PATH in Terminal but not > so in the environment Xquartz is running in. Or maybe you've got > a different set of X11 binaries courtesy of MacPorts or Homebrew, > and they aren't talking to Xquartz for some reason. > >> Are permissions set in ~/.ssh? > > Hmm, I don't think ssh should be involved here ... but who knows. > > regards, tom lane > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > X11-users mailing list > X11-users@lists.apple.com > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!V9tAQH823MJvpIBI6gZgjoJPC13WPCpPPzhGYlN6mfUi6ITuzbDIt3DeJjv1rc9KWzyAddsNuRFXSMC0iE1wvZJkNmL62dSXS30$ > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of X11-users Digest, Vol 22, Issue 9 > **************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mathematical reasoning may be regarded rather schematically as the exercise of a combination of two facilities, which we may call intuition and ingenuity. ~Alan Turing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Chopp Engineering Sciences and Applied Mathematics Northwestern University E-mail: ch...@northwestern.edu Phone: (847)-491-8391 Fax: (847)-491-2178 Homepage: http://people.esam.northwestern.edu/chopp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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