Hi Xalan-dev list

I'm one of the committers on PsychoPath XPath 2 engine and would like to offer 
my input where I can help if this is a viable way.

First off, I must confess that while I know XSLT pretty well, I've not studied 
Xalan-J in depth. However, from looking over the design document for Xalan-J 
version 2, I can spot three major obstacles in consuming PsychoPath from 
Xalan-J:

1) PsychoPath is not "streamy" yet
2) Type informations is not part of current interfaces.
3) How would the XLST-to-bytecode (XSLTC) fit in?

Ad 1: This would have to come from PsychoPath itself, with inspiration from the 
Xerces-J XPath engine. Work has not been underway yet, which leads to point 2:
Ad 2: The DOM, NodeIterator and Schema interfaces aren't rich enough for the 
type information we need in XPath 2 (and thus XSLT 2).
Ad 3: I've tried a proof-of-concept of making a compiler in PsychoPath, but 
this is not under development at the moment. Can the compiler fall-back to the 
interpreted implementation?

On top of this, there is interest (from within the PsychoPath project itself) 
to clean up the API quite a bit. The current way we deal with static and 
dynamic context is just not well thought out. It's not a big issue, but in the 
interest of embeddability of the XPath2 enigne itself, the notion of dynamic 
and static context needs to be cleaned.

Other than that, I would think that merging the two projects is not required at 
all, Xalan-J should be able to simply consume PsychoPath once we have a decent 
API which can satisfy the requirements of both Xalan and Xerces. If not, I 
thing it would signify a design fault in our API.

Let's discuss (I've joined this mailing list for this reason)!

-Jesper


> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:      Re: Re: implement XPath 2.0 function for xalan
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:39:20 +0800
> From: ustbcoder <ustbco...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To:     xalan-dev@xml.apache.org
> To:   xalan-dev@xml.apache.org <xalan-dev@xml.apache.org>, 
> xalan-dev@xml.apache.org <xalan-dev@xml.apache.org>
> 
> 
> Hi
>  
> Yeah, i have checked out PsychoPath source code,i think it is a good idea to 
> merge PsychoPath with Xalan, it will support nearly all the XPath 2.0 
> implemention for Xalan. After that, my task is to implement the other XSLT 
> 2.0 specification for Xalan,this solution really speed this project up much.
>  
>  
> Gui Xun Long
>  
>  
> 2010-03-28
> ustbcoder
> 发件人: David Carver
> 发送时间: 2010-03-27  12:42:41
> 收件人: xalan-dev@xml.apache.org
> 抄送:
> 主题: Re: implement XPath 2.0 function for xalan
> You guys may be able to speed some of this up by leveraging the PsychoPath 
> XPath 2.0 processor that is at Eclipse.
> 
> It is already being used by Xerces-J for XSD 1.1 Assertion support.   Why 
> re-invent the wheel if you can leverage something that already exists.
> 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/PsychoPathXPathProcessor
> 
> PsychoPath already is XML Schema Aware, leverages Xerces-J 2 and passes about 
> 99.9% of the Xpath 2.0 test suite.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 03/26/2010 09:25 PM, ustbcoder wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>>  
>> Starting with utility parts is regular way to implement a new recommendation 
>> specification. But i think, functions is a very  practical part. If i finish 
>> it first,may be some guys can go it into service. Months ago,i was working 
>> with a XSLT project based on Xalan, i need some XPath 2.0 functions,but i 
>> have to finished them by Xalan extension mechanism one by one, it is a 
>> boring work, so ,i think, if some one implements these XPath 2.0 functions 
>> already, how beautiful the world is!
>>  
>> But i want to say that implementing functions is just a pre-handler job for 
>> Xalan's XSLT 2.0 implemention job, it must be done sooner or later, so i 
>> have started it,it won't go wrong. Then start with which parts,schema 
>> change,sequences change or some utility parts, i am not very sure, so,i need 
>> your help,all of you can give me some advises.
>>  
>>  
>> 2010-03-27
>> ustbcoder
>> 发件人: Michael Ludwig
>> 发送时间: 2010-03-27  04:39:44 
>> 收件人: xalan-j-us...@xml.apache.org
>> 抄送:
>> 主题: Re: Re: implement XPath 2.0 function for xalan
>> xunlong gui schrieb am 26.03.2010 um 23:27:15 (+0800):
>> > 1.implements all the XSLT 2.0 functions which do not need sequences
>> > and XSLT 2.0 schema support
>> Leaving aside (W3C XML) schema awareness, the new type system of XPath
>> 2.0 seems the most fundamental change from 1.0 to 2.0, so I wonder
>> whether focussing on the utility parts would be a good start for any
>> effort to go to 2.0?
>> -- 
>> Michael Ludwig
> 
> 

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