David Carver <d_a_car...@yahoo.com> wrote on 06/18/2011 11:57:53 AM:
> I've been following this list for months, and it amazes me that it has > taken the threat of moving the project to the Attic to realise that > there is a hole in the 3 PMC requirement to keep a project going. The project was on the verge of moving to the Attic because it no longer had a functional PMC and had not produced an adequate board report in a long time. This had been a concern for awhile (see board meeting minutes [1]) not something that was just realized recently. The PMC reboot should resolve that issue. > According to Ohloh.net, the existing committers and PMC pretty much > abandonded the Xalan-J code base a couple of years ago. I personally > think a fork of Xalan would have a better chance of getting off the > ground outside of Apache, and then bringing that project back to Apache > once it has established itself. Plus, there really is a big need to > not have to use Subversion for source control, but to use Git to allow > easier contributions from the community back to the project. If the intention is to contribute the code to Xalan, in my opinion it would be better for the effort to be here. Folks interested in contributing can become committers. > If the existing committers and maintainers really wanted to keep Xalan > alive, they would have diversified it more initially, and when old > committers left, recruited help from the community. Lessons learned. Xalan would have benefited from the Incubator if it had existed way back then. In rebooting the PMC there is an opportunity to improve that going forward. > Most XSLT developers/users have moved on to Saxon, but that is just as > dangerous since it is maintained by just one person. Until such a day that Saxon becomes the implementation which ships in a dominant JDK distribution I doubt that. I believe most Java XSLT developers/users use whatever they get by default from their JDK/JRE and today that's still likely to be a derivative of Xalan-J. It might be true that there are now more users of Saxon than the *Apache* releases of Xalan-J but until someone conducts a reliable poll we're just speculating. > Dave > > On 06/16/2011 03:34 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Glavassevich > > <mrgla...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: > >> Victor Wang<wangqi.aguai.2...@gmail.com> wrote on 06/16/2011 07:36:45 AM: > >> ... > >>> Yeah, i am working with Xalan-J and PsychoPath's merging jobs, but > >>> it will only support a new Xalan-J version in the future. I have not > >>> considered Xalan-C yet. We all hope that Xalan will be alive in > >>> Apache in the future, what we can do is just try our best to improve it > >>> :-) > >> That seems more likely if the folks (including yourself) interested in > >> continuing development of Xalan attempt to do that here while the project > >> still exists. I get the sense that there are at least a couple people on > >> this list if granted committer status would do that, but aren't sure how to > >> go about obtaining it since there isn't a quorum of active PMC members / > >> committers who could vote new committers in.... > > Yes, people working on Xalan or interested in keeping it alive should > > definitely make themselves heard on this list. I have called for > > volunteer ASF members to help reboot the Xalan PMC so the project can > > continue here, but for this to happen we definitely need to hear about > > what's happening with Xalan here and now. > > > > Thanks, > > -Bertrand > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xalan-dev-unsubscr...@xml.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: xalan-dev-h...@xml.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xalan-dev-unsubscr...@xml.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: xalan-dev-h...@xml.apache.org Thanks. [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html Michael Glavassevich XML Parser Development IBM Toronto Lab E-mail: mrgla...@ca.ibm.com E-mail: mrgla...@apache.org
