On 11/5/06, Coach Wei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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There is an obvious need and interest for XAP as I have heard such from
a lot of conversations and customer needs. Declarative Ajax is validated
by various proprietary software offerings (such as Microsoft Altas);

perhaps that would make an interesting article for oreilly or
theserverside (XAP as an open source java analogue for atlas)

However, XAP lacks some elements required to engage a community:
1. How many people have heard of XAP? Not that many. There are some and
I personally know quite a few are fairly interested in digging into it -
however...
2.  XAP has no engaging demo or samples, nor text description, to get
someone to be further his interest;
3.  Getting the XAP code and start to write an app? Or even digging into
the code? Hard, very hard, even for me;

The above are my observations. To a large degree, they are natural for a
project at this stage - which is why I said we should not be overly
concerned about the situation at the moment.

but it's probably a good time to start working towards raising XAP's profile

Going forward, I think Bob Buffone made some really good suggestions
that would certainly help. In particular, I think XAP needs:
1. Some good demo or sample applications that pick an visitor's
interest;
2. Some straightforward documentation to help them get started with
building sample code or apps;

These are things that some committers are trying to work on over the
next few months.

Lastly, I want to caution other Apache folks though - there is not
overnight success. It will take a lot of work and probably many more
months for us to see a growing community.

+1

community building is more art than science

momentum is somewhat unponderable and unfathomable

- robert

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