Ah, OK, sorry, I misunderstood as well :-) It's still unclear to me what you 
have in mind. Could you give an example of what the CSL would look like?

charles

On Feb 21, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Frank Bennett wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Charles Parnot
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Agreed. Even though we have a custom processor that's directly compiled with 
>> the app, it is indeed the way things are split on our end: the processor 
>> code just takes whatever data is handed to it at face value, with no extra 
>> processing. It's up to my Papers-to-CSL translation layer to return a proper 
>> value upon request of a CSL variable.
>> 
>> It makes much more sense to do any parsing at the client level, since the 
>> data is also displayed to the user, and might as well be cleaned up for that 
>> purpose as well.
>> 
>> charles
> 
> I agree that the processor should assume clean input. The only
> extension I have in mind is to (blindly) link the DOI with an anchor
> in HTML output (by adding the HTML anchor tags as a wrapper, with the
> stub prefix on the href of the anchor).
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Dan Stillman wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/21/12 6:23 PM, Ian Mulvany wrote:
>>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1567-1364.2011.00787.x
>>>> " is a valid URI,
>>>> however a it seems valid DOI can be represented as
>>>> 10.1006/rwei.1999".0001 or as doi:10.1006/rwei.1999".0001
>>>> (
>>>> http://www.doi.org/handbook_2000/appendix_1.html#A1-C
>>>> ) and is often
>>>> represented as doi:10.1006/rwei.1999".0001 or as
>>>> doi:10.1006/rwei.1999".0001.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems clear to me that all three prefixes "doi:",
>>>> 
>>>> "http://dx.doi.org/";
>>>> , and "" are going to be submitted in the wild. If
>>>> it's possible to formulate a solution that can handle all three inputs
>>>> gracefully that would be optimal.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't know what you're referring to in that handbook link. DOIs are just 
>>> the "10." part. The "doi:" prefix and the resolver URL prefix aren't part 
>>> of the DOI, and there's no reason for those to be stored in DOI fields in 
>>> clients or passed around.
>>> 
>>> If Frank wants to add in parsing of those things, that's up to him, but 
>>> that would make about as much sense as parsing "ISBN: 123456789" or a 
>>> "http://www.worldcat.org/isbn/[ISBN]"; URL. It's up to clients to pass the 
>>> processor proper data.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 February 2012 03:43, Rintze Zelle <[email protected]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Dan Stillman
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/20/12 8:18 PM, Rintze Zelle wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Bruce D'Arcus
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The one that prompted this discussion is DOIs, where a link URI gets
>>>>>>> constructed out of the id, using a base URI dx.doi.org.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Particularly for DOIs, it might be desirable to normalize the output. 
>>>>>> E.g.
>>>>>> it would be nice if we could render the doi field values
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1567-1364.2011.00787.x";
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> "doi:10.1111/j.1567-1364.2011.00787.x" and
>>>>>> "10.1111/j.1567-1364.2011.00787.x" all as
>>>>>> "doi:10.1111/j.1567-1364.2011.00787.x" (link title) with a href value of
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1567-1364.2011.00787.x";
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In this case, we might want to make this parsing explicit in CSL. One
>>>>>> could even imagine creating a new rendering element, cs:link, for that
>>>>>> purpose.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This doesn't seem like the processor's job. All but the last one are bad
>>>>>> data. If anything, the client should normalize the values before passing
>>>>>> them through.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're right. Sorry for the noise. I guess I'm just used to seeing bad
>>>>> metadata.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rintze
>>>>> 
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