On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Carles Pina <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 18 November 2012 00:07, Bruce D'Arcus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Carles Pina <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 17 November 2012 18:38, Sebastian Karcher <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> looks like Carles is fixing this. To explain: For the repository we need 
>>>> the
>>>> styles to conform to the standard ID format - it seems easiest to just save
>>>> all styles to conform to repository guidelines (as Steve's version does),
>>>> but if you prefer to have different IDs like csl.mendeley.com/... for 
>>>> custom
>>>
>>> in this case is not if "we prefer" but "we really need". The style id
>>> is used in Microsoft Word/Libreoffice documents, and needs to point to
>>> a URL where the style is served. This is what is happening at the
>>> moment (e.g. http://csl.mendeley.com/styles/16825/apa would download
>>> an apa style that I did for testing).
>>>
>>> Indeed, having an option to help the user to export the styles to the
>>> repository could change the style id.
>>
>> Then maybe we need to rethink all of this business of style
>> identification and resolution, and where we want to be in the future
>> as a community of implementers?
>>
>> The style ID is intended to be a globally unique, stable, identifier
>> for the style. It makes no sense for there to be 50 ids for each of 50
>> copies.
>
> 50 ids for each 50 modifications of the given style makes sense, no?

Yeah, that's where thing get interesting and complicated!

Perhaps we need a way to indicate that a style is some revision of
another style? With documents and Dublin Core, this is done with
versionOf properties.

> Who is doing 50 copies of the style?

Sorry, I wasn't meaning there actually is 50 copies; just making a
conceptual point.

> In Mendeley we use the styleId from the repository
> (http://www.zotero.org/styles/ ones, would be ore clear to have the
> styleIds to http://citationstyles.org/styles/ ?). We only use the
> http://csl.mendeley.com/styles when a user edits the style.

OK; gotcha.

Bruce

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