Hi Aurimas,

Regarding CAS: I asked them and I received an answer that said that
"look the terms and conditions" which is quite strict. I haven't done
any work there.

Regarding MEDLINE/Index, etc.: see
https://github.com/citation-style-language/abbreviations/tree/master/ncbi
. The terms of use on the webpage says that it's ok and Rintze double
checked with them and they answered that it's ok to publish it to
different places, etc.

LTWA: terms of use of the webpage says that it's freely re-distributable, etc.

At Mendeley we use LTWA but I haven't uploaded to
https://github.com/citation-style-language/abbreviations because it's
not a journal abbreviations but word abbreviations. Citeproc-js cannot
use it straight away. What we did: citeproc-js looks up the
abbreviation and Mendeley Desktop uses ncbi and if we don't have an
exact match then it does its best with LTWA.

We released it one month ago approximately (even a bit more) and so
far we haven't had complains. If I can help in something else let me
know.

Regards,

On 18 October 2013 02:52, aurimas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Carles,
>
> Have you heard back anything from CAS or CASSI about the legality of
> compiling abbreviation lists in JSON for re-distribution?
>
> I've been looking around for different styles that require abbreviations and
> I'm not coming across that many different abbreviation lists. Most require
> LTWA, some reference MEDLINE/Index Medicus, which is essentially LTWA with a
> few changes. Both of those are not restricted AFAIK and CSL could easily
> distribute them.
>
> However, ACS journals refer to CASSI (I actually thought CAS was essentially
> the same list), which, as Carles points out is copyrighted and their terms
> of use pretty clearly state that you cannot compile the abbreviations into a
> large list for distribution. It's a bit odd that they would be this
> restrictive, considering that access to CASSI is free. If we can't compile
> it into a JSON file, I figured that the reference managers could have users
> click buttons to "automatically" retrieve abbreviations for the journals in
> their libraries. That seems to be ok with their ToS.
> http://www.library.illinois.edu/biotech/j-abbrev.html suggests that CASSI is
> also based on LTWA, but obviously, like with MEDLINE, there may be some
> corrections that need to be accounted for.
>
> I also came across an abbreviation list used by Society for Biblical
> Studies. It's published in The SBL Handbook of Style (section 8.4.1) and is
> obviously copyrighted. Their copyright notice
> (http://www.sbl-site.org/publications/publishing_fairuse.aspx), however,
> does not seem very restrictive and perhaps they would grant rights to
> redistribute the list if inquired (I haven't yet).
>
> http://www.library.illinois.edu/biotech/j-abbrev.html also mentions BIOSIS
> and a couple other lists (they all seem to be LTWA-based), but I have not
> found any styles that reference these. Do you guys know if they are actually
> used? There's also the WoS list
> http://images.webofknowledge.com/WOK46/help/WOS/A_abrvjt.html but again, I
> haven't seen a style that uses it.
>
> Finally, I know that Bluebook has a bunch of abbreviation lists, but they
> are copyrighted and, as Frank has discovered, Bluebook holds on to their
> copyright very tightly. ALWD may also have abbreviations, but I don't have
> access to either of the manuals, so I can't comment exactly.
>
> So basically, my concern is that, with the exception of MEDLINE and LTWA,
> all the other lists are copyrighted, which essentially puts a stop to CSL
> distributing them.
>
> I had started writing a formal specification for abbreviation lists
> (https://gist.github.com/aurimasv/6878178). The gist of it is that managing
> the lists and generating abbreviations would be left up to the reference
> manager. CSL would have been the source of the actual lists, but considering
> the above, perhaps it's best to leave obtaining/generating the lists up to
> the reference managers as well.
>
> CSL would simply identify the list that needs to be used for a style (the
> list identifiers would have to be agreed upon), the CSL processor would
> request the reference manager to generate an abbreviation for a particular
> field given an abbreviation list ID (falling back to unabbreviated form
> otherwise), and the rest would be left up to the reference managers to
> implement as they see fit.
>
> I'd love to have this subject finalized as soon as possible, so that we can
> properly implement abbreviation lists in Zotero.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> Aurimas.
>
>
>
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