I don't know how carefully the description of variables were ever written, so I wouldn't parse them too closely.
For example for volume: > The term is also used as an identifier for a sequence of periodicals, > generally based on a single calendar year. has always been used like that in practice. The specs should probably be amended to reflect that, but I'm sure there will be other examples where variable descriptions aren't 100% comprehensive (in bibliographic terms, one could even argue that a volume of a journal _is_ a container, as that's the way journals are bound&sorted in libraries). Like Rintze, I don't yet understand the problem with the current setting and I'm not sure how Rintze's and your arguments about volume/issue even contradict each other. E.g. if you look at the English translation for "issue" it's also "number" because that's how it is used in citations (e.g. Chicago Manual asks for "103, no. 2" for the 2nd issue of the 103rd volume. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Joël Hendriks <em...@joelhendriks.nl> wrote: > Hello, > When I was checking the Dutch translations on Transifex for Zotero I > noticed some minor inconsistency with some of the translations that were > made earlier on. But I also noticed that some words could be better > translated on the CSL localization. > > Right now I am discussing with Rintze about what would be the best > translation for 'issue' and 'edition'. That is how I came up to this > 'problem'. > > A lot of newspapers, magazines and journals use year/number to identify > a single finished product by the creators; which can get reproduced many > times depending on the kind of material. I argued that this could be > seen as: volume/issue. Rintze argued that 'issue' should be called (in > dutch) 'number'. I think there is something to say for both. So, what's > next? > > Scenario 1: > We stick to a strict explanation like the way it is written in the > specification right now: > > edition > (container) edition holding the item (e.g. ">>>3<<<" when citing a > chapter in the >>>third<<< edition of a book) > issue > (container) issue holding the item (e.g. ">>>5<<<" when citing a journal > article from journal volume 2, issue >>>5<<<) > volume > (container) volume holding the item (e.g. "2" when citing a chapter from > book volume 2) > > Which would also mean that the description of >>volume<< should be > altered to let it say something like it does on Wikipedia > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume (bibliography)]: "The term is also > used as an identifier for a sequence of periodicals, generally based on > a single calendar year. However, a school magazine might start each new > volume at the beginning of the academic year, or at the beginning of > each term/semester. Thus, all issues published in the Nth term or year > will be classified under the Nth volume." > > Scenario 2: > We add a new >>date<< variable called >issued-year< to make a clear > distinction between >>issued<< and >issued-year<. > We add a new >>locator<< called >number< or alter the definition of the > variable >>number<<. > > What is your opinion on this? > > Note, I did not write this to discuss or discredit the work of Rintze, > it is just that I think CSL can be improved by clearing this up. > > -- > With kind regards / Met vriendelijke groeten, > > > Joël Hendriks > > Traverse 68 > 5361 TG Grave (The Netherlands) > em...@joelhendriks.nl > (+31) 06-41397761 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech > _______________________________________________ > xbiblio-devel mailing list > xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel -- Sebastian Karcher Ph.D. Candidate Department of Political Science Northwestern University ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech _______________________________________________ xbiblio-devel mailing list xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel
