> to robert: be happy to include a bridge for PRISM variables if this is a > widely used standard. Just show me a mapping list and the purl.org entry to > use.
I'm not sure if there is an existing purl.org entry. The example at http://www.prismstandard.org/resources/mod_prism.html uses a prismstandard.org URL for the namespace. There is a PURL '/rss/1.0/modules/prism/' which points to the aforementioned mod_prism.html resource but you want one which points to the namespace? I don't have a list of PRISM -> CSL mappings directly to hand, but the fields that we recognize which I believe map straightforwardly to CSL in most cases are: "prism:aggregationType", "prism:copyright", "prism:doi", "prism:edition", "prism:endingPage", "prism:genre", "prism:issn", "prism:issueIdentifier", "prism:issueName", "prism:keyword", "prism:location", "prism:number", "prism:organization", "prism:pageRange", "prism:publicationDate", "prism:publicationName", "prism:section", "prism:startingPage", "prism:volume", "prism:url" On 14 July 2014 10:29, Robert Knight <robert.kni...@mendeley.com> wrote: >> In either case, Zotero does not read metadata directly from PDFs, because, >> from what we've seen, >> the metadata is very unreliable (though this may change in the future). > > The main problem we observed was that the same Dublin Core fields that > are used for article metadata are also filled in by PDF generation > software using generic defaults - for example the filename of the > source document (Word, LaTeX etc.) as dc:title and the name of the > software that created the PDF as dc:creator. > > In Mendeley we apply some simple heuristics based on a comparison of > the metadata with the actual content of the first few pages of the PDF > to decide whether or not to use that metadata. > > The presence of PRISM fields is also a useful indicator since they are > more domain specific and less likely to be populated with other data > than the DC fields. > > On 14 July 2014 07:11, Aurimas Vinckevicius <aurimas....@gmail.com> wrote: >> PRISM 3.0 has been published as well, though Zotero (I can't speak for other >> managers) does not yet recognize the new spec/namespace, but we'll get there >> soon. In either case, Zotero does not read metadata directly from PDFs, >> because, from what we've seen, the metadata is very unreliable (though this >> may change in the future). >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Robert Knight <robert.kni...@mendeley.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> > digi-libris Reader <http://digi-libris.com> can export all Metadata of >>> > an >>> > object including CSL-specific variables (those that cannot be mapped 1:1 >>> > to >>> > Dublin Core Terms. e.g. pageRange, event, genre etc.) >>> >>> Have you considered mapping to PRISM as well? [1] That fills in a >>> number of gaps in Dublin Core and is already in use by several >>> publishers. Mendeley will read PRISM metadata from PDFs in addition to >>> Dublin Core and I think Papers does as well. I'm not sure if Zotero >>> can? >>> >>> [1] >>> http://www.prismstandard.org/specifications/2.1/PRISM_prism_namespace_2.1.pdf >>> >>> On 14 July 2014 02:48, Aurimas Vinckevicius <aurimas....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Rintze Zelle <rintze.ze...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Since nobody is responding, my two cents: I would pick option 4 for >>> >> now. >>> >> >>> >> Rintze >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM, johnmie <miesc...@bizdata.com> wrote: >>> >> > digi-libris Reader <http://digi-libris.com> can export all Metadata >>> >> > of >>> >> > an >>> >> > object including CSL-specific variables (those that cannot be mapped >>> >> > 1:1 >>> >> > to >>> >> > Dublin Core Terms. e.g. pageRange, event, genre etc.) as XMP sidecar >>> >> > file >>> >> > which can be imported into PDF files (with Acrobat.exe) and which >>> >> > other >>> >> > software might be able to read. >>> > >>> > >>> > Where are these CSL-specific variables coming from? I don't see any CSL >>> > spec >>> > (neither CSL documentation, nor CSL JSON format) defining pageRange. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > Until now we have stored these CSL variables as attribute/value pairs >>> >> > under >>> >> > custom entries which appear in Acrobat.exe under /File >> Properties >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Additional Metadata >> Advanced/ and are stored in the XMP file as >>> >> > >>> >> > /<rdf:Description rdf:about="" >>> >> > xmlns:pdfx="http://ns.adobe.com/pdfx/1.3/";> >>> >> > <pdfx:citation_pageRange>7-9</pdfx:citation_pageRange> >>> >> > </rdf:Description>/ >>> >> > >>> >> > I am now considering changing this to include a proper CSL namespace >>> >> > which >>> >> > could look line >>> >> > / >>> >> > <rdf:Description rdf:about="" >>> >> > xmlns:cs="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl/";> >>> >> > <cs:pageRange>7-9</cs:pageRange> >>> >> > </rdf:Description>/ >>> >> > >>> >> > but unfortunately this URL returns a 404 error or automatically >>> >> > re-directs >>> >> > you to http://citationstyles.org. No way to see a list of variables. >>> > >>> > >>> > Namespaces are not required to resolve to a valid page (I agree that it >>> > may >>> > be useful though). For all intents and purposes they're just some >>> > globally-unique string. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > What do you recommend: >>> >> > >>> >> > 1 stay with pdfx >>> >> > 2 change to xbiblio even though the latter does not reveal a valid >>> >> > namespace >>> >> > 3 register a new domain with purl.org (under purl.org/digi/csl/ or >>> >> > similar) >>> >> > 4 as nbr 3 above but use a proprietary prefix (e.g. digicita: or >>> >> > similar) >>> >> > ? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? 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