Budget looks very reasonable to me, agree that supporting Frank is a good
use of funds. I had a question about the licensing of software on the CSL
draft document.
On 17 May 2015 at 22:56, Sebastian Karcher <karc...@u.northwestern.edu>
wrote:
> We now have received donations from both Springer and Elsevier, and Rintze
> and I are working on announcing those publicly.
>
> So I'd now like to finalize the budget. In addition to my original
> suggestion, I had a longer conversation in which Frank suggested that a
> significant one-time donation of $1000.- to him through the University of
> Nagoya would be very helpful. We'd help support his countless activities
> that help to improve and document CSL, including work on legal features
> that we hope to integrate into CSL as well as, most recently, his combined
> validation/testing tool he put up as part of juris-m (it's currently in
> beta, I'll assume he'll make a full announcement when it's ready, but it'll
> be quite helpful for testing our more complex styles).
>
>
> With that included, the full budget for 2015 is (see my initial e-mail in
> this thread for further details):
>
> Donations 2015
> $10,000
> ----
> - 1,200 (d) (Sylvester for submission bot)
> - 3,150 (Rintze, Sebastian, 1,575 each)
> - 400 (d?) (Phillip)
> - 1000 (d?) (Frank)
> - 165 (d) (style manuals)
> - 396 ("deficit" 2014)
> - 2460 (est. taxes 2015) (10,000-anything I can tax deduct)*.285
> ----
> 2015 Budgeted "surplus": $1,229
>
> (d denotes tax deductible for me).
>
> I think having some leftover funding is great, e.g. if we have additional
> things we'd like to purchase or tools we'd like to fund. We're also not
> tied to any budget cycles, so there's no issue with carrying over funds
> into next year.
>
> Any objections? Questions? Additional requests or ideas for funding?
>
> (as a reminder -- we have, as by last Sunday, adopted our governance
> document, currently at
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NAqO2OfjaUZg2iEi4KvFkUiVcpcGCJVw9KnrBbBDYxk/edit?usp=sharing.
> Rintze is putting it on citationstyles.org right now. The default
> decision-making process is still consensus on this mailing list, so this
> shouldn't really change much.)
>
> Have a great week,
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Carles Pina <carles.p...@mendeley.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Governance: keep it simple for now, fine with me!
>>
>> Donation money: your break down makes sense to me. I'd say that any
>> money spent on good automation tools and maintenance will pay off in
>> medium term. Maybe after the first run we can have more ideas to
>> improve the bot tools.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> On 12 April 2015 at 23:35, Bruce D'Arcus <bdar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Fine with me. It can always be basis for formalization later, if needed.
>> >
>> > On Apr 12, 2015 6:31 PM, "Sebastian Karcher" <
>> karc...@u.northwestern.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Since the early trend seems to go towards governance -- would people
>> be OK
>> >> with an informal governance document, i.e. something that's mutually
>> agreed
>> >> on and binding in that sense, but doesn't aim at being enforceable in
>> any
>> >> court? I currently think that'd be my preferred option.
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise we'd probably have to incorporate CSL in some way, which is
>> >> exactly the level of bureaucracy I'd like to avoid. But if there are
>> >> compelling arguments to go all formal, I'm certainly open to being
>> >> convinced.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Frank Bennett <biercena...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Governance is good.
>> >>>
>> >>> It would be great if CSL could cover the costs I incur in connection
>> >>> with project hosting. They arise from work on MLZ (to be rebranded in
>> >>> due course as "Juris-M"). The justification would be that Juris-M
>> >>> development explores territory in law and multilingual referencing
>> >>> into which CSL may eventually move. I'm not sure everyone is
>> >>> comfortable with that logic.
>> >>>
>> >>> The costs would be small. From memory, it's something like this:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. SSL certificate: $15.95
>> >>> 2. Shared Hosting: ~$70.00
>> >>> 3. DNS reg: ~$10.00
>> >>>
>> >>> The cert at (1) will be installed on a University server that I use to
>> >>> negotiate OAuth connections to GitHub from https://juris-m.github.io.
>> >>> The server is currently running with a cert issued by the UPKI center
>> >>> in the National Institute for Informatics (NII), a free service to
>> >>> Japanese universities. The service will be terminated in June, and
>> >>> there is apparently to be no replacement, neither at the NII nor in
>> >>> our university.
>> >>>
>> >>> With OAuth authentication, the Juris-M code editor can submit
>> >>> one-click pull requests to any GitHub repo. The site is currently
>> >>> bound to the legal style modules repo, but could be extended to direct
>> >>> mainstream CSL styles to the CSL repo, if that is desired.
>> >>>
>> >>> The hosting at (2) is for the http://citationstylist.org domain and
>> >>> server. I plan to migrate this content to Juris-M on GitHub in a
>> >>> general housecleaning, but the DNS reg will need to be maintained for
>> >>> a time to handle redirects.
>> >>>
>> >>> The DNS reg at (3) is for the gsl-nagoya-u.net domain, which
>> currently
>> >>> serves the MLZ xpi and some documentation - it is no longer used by
>> >>> our faculty, and I have de facto control over the domain. It will also
>> >>> need to be maintained for a time, again for the general migration to
>> >>> the new Juris-M space on GitHub.
>> >>>
>> >>> That's the rough run-down, I can dig out receipts when needed. Once a
>> >>> mode of decision-making is agreed, I'll follow the group's decision on
>> >>> whether these costs are in-scope.
>> >>>
>> >>> Frank
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Sebastian Karcher
>> >>> <karc...@u.northwestern.edu> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi all,
>> >>> > this post has two parts: it starts with a suggested budget for the
>> use
>> >>> > of
>> >>> > sponsorship money we have/will receive(d) this year, then some brief
>> >>> > more
>> >>> > general considerations on governance. So if you don't care about the
>> >>> > former,
>> >>> > please scroll down. We have received the money from Springer/Papers
>> and
>> >>> > are
>> >>> > waiting for the check from Elsevier/Mendeley, which should arrive
>> any
>> >>> > time.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This is Rintze and my budget proposal:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Donations 2014 + $5000
>> >>> > Rintze - $1962.94
>> >>> > Sebastian - $1950
>> >>> > Stickers - $72.96
>> >>> > - taxes 2014: $1410*
>> >>> > ---
>> >>> > - 395.90
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Donations 2015
>> >>> > $10,000
>> >>> > ----
>> >>> > - 1,200 (d) (Sylvester for submission bot)
>> >>> > - 3,150 (Rintze, Sebastian, 1,575 each)
>> >>> > - 400 (d?) (Phillip - proposed)
>> >>> > - 165 (d) (style manuals)**
>> >>> > - 396 ("deficit" 2014)
>> >>> > - 2460 (est. taxes 2015) (10,000-anything I can tax deduct)*.285
>> >>> > ----
>> >>> > 2015 Budgeted "surplus": $2,229
>> >>> >
>> >>> > (d) signifies tax deductible for me
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Let me know if anything looks wrong or you have any questions, on or
>> >>> > off
>> >>> > list is fine.
>> >>> > Three questions in ascending order of generality:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 1. Is everyone OK with this? Suggested changes, objections?
>> >>> > 2. What should we do with the $2,229 currently left? I'd love to
>> >>> > support
>> >>> > Frank's work in some way, so Frank if there's anything we can
>> do--pay
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > server or the like--please let us know. Beyond that, any other
>> ideas?
>> >>> > Both
>> >>> > donations are no-strings-attached, so we can do anything that's
>> useful
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > CSL: Fund travel to conferences/talks or face-to-face meetings,
>> >>> > fund/bounty
>> >>> > additional CSL-related development. Thoughts, ideas?
>> >>> > 3. Rintze and I both feel that some type of governance would make
>> sense
>> >>> > now
>> >>> > that we deal with non-trivial amounts of money. At the same time,
>> time
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > one of our scarcest resources, so we shouldn't do anything that
>> places
>> >>> > any
>> >>> > undue burden on that. Rintze suggested something like this:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> we could create a governing board, whose role is to annually
>> >>> >> articulate
>> >>> >> short and long-term goals of the CSL project (with community
>> input),
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> make decisions on how these goals can be best achieved with the
>> >>> >> available
>> >>> >> funds. (...) We could have a poll every year or two for the board
>> >>> >> positions.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > We could, alternatively, just keep running this entirely through the
>> >>> > list
>> >>> > and on a consensus basis, which has worked pretty well, but I am a
>> >>> > little
>> >>> > worried that we don't have any mechanism in place at all should
>> there
>> >>> > be
>> >>> > some type of conflict.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts, especially on 2 and 3.
>> >>> > Sebastian
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > * a little under 15% each for income and self-employment tax
>> >>> > ** specifically: CMoS subscription: $60 for 2 years (d)
>> >>> > Australian Gov't Style Manaual $50 (d)
>> >>> > Duden Schriftliche Arbeit $15 (d)
>> >>> > SBL Style Manual 2nd Edition $40 (d)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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>> >> Department of Political Science
>> >> Northwestern University
>> >>
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>> http://www.mendeley.com/profiles/Carles-Pina/
>>
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