That's getting rather tricky and we're hitting the limits of what simple rich text markup can do: For species, Rintze is correct:
- Lowercase the second part of a species name, such as *fulvescens* in *Acipenser fulvescens*, even if it is the last word in a title or subtitle. but that's not the case for book titles in article titles, which should be title cased (no good example, but clear from 14.177). If you want to despair entirely, Chicago Manual treats book titles within book titles ( *Annotations to “Finnegans Wake”* 14.102) Differently from species names in book titles (*Postnatal Development of the Ovary in* Homo sapiens *and* Macaca mulatta 14.103) I'd vote with Nick and say let's leave it alone, but unless we're going to introduce semantic markup (nooo!) we won't be getting this right consistently. What this does suggest to me is that we should formalize the no-case (?) tags that citeproc-js supports informally. On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Rintze Zelle <rintze.ze...@gmail.com> wrote: > I do think italics and small-caps (and possibly superscript/subscript > too) markup should disable title casing. > > Example: > > L-Malic acid formation by immobilized Saccharomyces cerevisiae > amplified for fumarase > http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/0141-0229(91)90122-Q > > "L-Malic acid" starts with an all-caps character. I'm afraid it would > turn into "L-malic acid" with title casing, which would be incorrect. > "Saccharomyces cerevisiae" is in italics and should not change > capitalization, since it's a species name. > > (see http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/0005-2736(87)90253-7 for another title > with the same two cases) > > Rintze > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Nick Bart <nickbart1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree: neither parentheses (nor [] or {}, for that matter), nor quotes > > (plain or curly, single or double), nor HTML-like markup should disable > > conversion to title case. > > > > On 15 November 2015 at 06:04, Frank Bennett <biercena...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Sounds good. That was my question on that one. > >> > >> On Nov 15, 2015 14:38, "Sebastian Karcher" <karc...@u.northwestern.edu> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> sorry for chiming in late, the original e-mail had actually gotten > caught > >>> in Spam. I agree with bwiernik -- while the two other issue you raise > are > >>> right, quotation marks shouldn't disable casing. See e.g. > >>> Bruccoli, Matthew J., ed. “An Artist Is His Own Fault”: John O’Hara on > >>> Writers and Writing. Carbondale: Southern Illinois University Press, > 1977. > >>> from CMoS 14.104 > >>> That would be “An artist is his own fault”: John O’Hara on writers and > >>> writing. > >>> in sentence case. And conversely (and I took that to be bwiernik's > >>> point), the title he cites would be > >>> “General Intelligence,” Objectively Determined and Measured. > >>> in title case/Chicago Manual. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Frank Bennett <biercena...@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 1:37 PM, bwiernik <xbib...@wiernik.org> > wrote: > >>>> > I don't think the literal tags for words in quotes are correct. For > >>>> > example, > >>>> > this reference: > >>>> > > >>>> > Spearman, C. (1904). “General intelligence,” objectively determined > >>>> > and > >>>> > measured. The American Journal of Psychology, 15(2), 201–292. > >>>> > http://doi.org/10.2307/1412107 > >>>> > > >>>> > "General intelligence," should probably be capitalized in Title > Case. > >>>> > Use of > >>>> > quotes in titles like this is rare, but it does happen. > >>>> > >>>> But in that example, the title as a whole is set in sentence case, so > >>>> case conversions would not performed at all. To get a capital "I" in > >>>> "General Intelligence," it would need to be capitalized in the input > >>>> data. > >>>> > >>>> The reverse case - a Title Case title with a quoted title in sentence > >>>> case - would test whether literal rendering is the right way to go. In > >>>> that configuration, literal rendering would keep the embedded title in > >>>> sentence case, while ordinary rendering would force it to Title Case > >>>> along with the rest of the title. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > View this message in context: > >>>> > > http://xbiblio-devel.2463403.n2.nabble.com/Title-case-questions-tp7579427p7579432.html > >>>> > Sent from the xbiblio-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > xbiblio-devel mailing list > >>>> > xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> xbiblio-devel mailing list > >>>> xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sebastian Karcher, PhD > >>> www.sebastiankarcher.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> xbiblio-devel mailing list > >>> xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > >>> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xbiblio-devel mailing list > >> xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xbiblio-devel mailing list > > xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > xbiblio-devel mailing list > xbiblio-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > -- Sebastian Karcher, PhD www.sebastiankarcher.com
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