Hi all, as promised, here's the 2nd instalment of the conversation between Bruce, Frank, Rintze, and me on CSL plans for 2016. This one focuses on the general outline for updates of the CSL specifications&schema.
1. Minor Update (terms, types, and variables) There's a fair number of proposed terms, variable&types that we should add to CSL, most of them listed here https://github.com/avram/zotero-bits/issues/ We'd also, in that process, re-license the schema under MIT in line with our general governance standards. Any addition of these should be very straightforward for processors to include and obviously the change would be backward compatible for old styles. Our tentative goal for this would be within the next 3-4 months Two things for people to comment/check on: a) if you have something you'd like to see added that fits in this broad description and isn't listed at the link above, now would be a good time to bring that up. b) any thoughts from implementers on how you'd like us to deal with this on the repository? I think it makes sense to have two branches for some time, but we don't really want to handle multiple branches for an extended period of time. 2. Major update (unclear timeline, maybe summer 2016?) The main things we'd like to see would be a) distinction between continuously paginated journals and those that are not for APA and similar styles. This comes up a lot & is super annoying to automate. We think that from the CSL side, we would just introduce a variable like "continuously-paginated" which defaults to true (since most journals are) and leave it to reference managers on how exactly to implement, though we'd be happy to host metadata to help automatize this, crowdsourced or otherwise. b) Implementing a distinction between (author date) and author (date). This is being requested a lot and the lack of proper support makes things hard particularly for citation styles like APA with changing et al. requirements depending on position of the cite. To assure that one of CSL's key features -- one click conversion between author-date and footnotes styles, remains in tact this means authors also need to be included in corresponding citations for numeric and note styles, i.e. Smith (1776) needs to turn into Smith [1] or Smith ^1 respectively. Pandoc-citeproc already does this, and up to this point this could all be handled in the ref managers, processors. Where we would need a CSL chance is to allow for different formatting outside of the parentheses. E.g. APA (again!) has (Smith & Marx, 1776), but Smith and Marx (1776), so we would need to allow for two formats in cs:citation depending on the type of citation. c) Composite styles as used in chemistry. These look like numeric styles, but within a single numeric citation combine multiple references using a), b), c) etc. This is the one we understand least well, so no one is really sure how this would look properly implemented. If someone knows an expert in ACS-type citation styles who'd be willing to walk us through exactly how this works, that could be very helpful. Are there any objections to any of these? And are there any major issues we're missing that we should put on the agenda for the next major update? Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Karcher, PhD www.sebastiankarcher.com
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