It's my understanding that Nvidia (which purchased Bright Cluster Manager) will eventually raise support prices 10x. So I suspect there will be renewed interest in open source cluster management software.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 1:44 PM <xcat-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Send xCAT-user mailing list submissions to > xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > xcat-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > xcat-user-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of xCAT-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [External] Re: Announcement: xCAT Project End-Of-Life > planned for December 1, 2023 (Kilian Cavalotti) > 2. Re: [External] Re: Announcement: xCAT Project End-Of-Life > planned for December 1, 2023 (Imam Toufique) > 3. Re: [External] Re: Announcement: xCAT Project End-Of-Life > planned for December 1, 2023 (Don Avart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 10:52:30 -0700 > From: Kilian Cavalotti <kilian.cavalotti.w...@gmail.com> > To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [xcat-user] [External] Re: Announcement: xCAT Project > End-Of-Life planned for December 1, 2023 > Message-ID: > <CAJz= > vjh7hon3ddhoayt_dph0mz5vviqxnax-fq0jot3k7vu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 8:21?AM Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com> > wrote: > > -Someone to take over the xCAT 2.x codebase as-is, adding some missing > stuff like Ubuntu 20+ support, RHEL9, etc. I don't know that anyone has > volunteered to go all in on all that exactly yet. > > I would love to see this happening. > > This is obviously not a one-person endeavor, but a team of volunteers > could probably take over the project, look at existing issues and PRs, > merge what's already there and try to fix remaining problems, add > support for new distributions and provide general support on a best > effort basis. > > This presupposes IBM being willing to transfer ownership of the GitHub > organization, CI pipeline, RPM mirrors, etc. But that seems to be the > best option to keep the xCAT project alive, or at least, more > realistically, maintain what's been the state of things for the last > couple years. > > Cheers, > -- > Kilian > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:05:08 -0700 > From: Imam Toufique <techie...@gmail.com> > To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [xcat-user] [External] Re: Announcement: xCAT Project > End-Of-Life planned for December 1, 2023 > Message-ID: > < > caacrou1pzpgr0ov8b1tnc_ahsaoxky+xio2zenikygzmlhv...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, > I am willing to do any testing I can in our POC environment. We use Rocky > Linux 8 in our cluster, but I have a POC environment, where I can load > other OS'es as well. I would really like to see xCAT thrive for the long > run. > thanks > --imam > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 10:53?AM Kilian Cavalotti < > kilian.cavalotti.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 8:21?AM Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com> > > wrote: > > > -Someone to take over the xCAT 2.x codebase as-is, adding some missing > > stuff like Ubuntu 20+ support, RHEL9, etc. I don't know that anyone has > > volunteered to go all in on all that exactly yet. > > > > I would love to see this happening. > > > > This is obviously not a one-person endeavor, but a team of volunteers > > could probably take over the project, look at existing issues and PRs, > > merge what's already there and try to fix remaining problems, add > > support for new distributions and provide general support on a best > > effort basis. > > > > This presupposes IBM being willing to transfer ownership of the GitHub > > organization, CI pipeline, RPM mirrors, etc. But that seems to be the > > best option to keep the xCAT project alive, or at least, more > > realistically, maintain what's been the state of things for the last > > couple years. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Kilian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xCAT-user mailing list > > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > > > > -- > Regards, > *Imam Toufique* > *213-700-5485* > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:05:27 -0400 > From: Don Avart <dav...@redlineperf.com> > To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [xcat-user] [External] Re: Announcement: xCAT Project > End-Of-Life planned for December 1, 2023 > Message-ID: <c7fa93f3-0545-4542-9ba4-8583b7a3c...@redlineperf.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I couldn?t agree more with Brian?s sentiment about xCAT. We, RedLine, > have been xCAT users, integrators and occasional contributors since the end > of IBM?s CSM. We?ve deployed it on numerous vendor platforms and it just > works. As a small business in the greater HPC marketplace we have many > customers that rely on xCAT and we will need to work with them to identify > an alternative should xCAT discontinue. I?ve reached out to the IBM team > as well as Jarrod from Lenovo and others in the community. I am very > interested in putting together a plan that would continue to provide an > open source option that is platform agnostic. > > With respect to Jarrod?s comments about using Confluent as a starting > point for future development of xCAT, there are a number of > considerations. Here are a few. > Is Lenovo committed to keeping Confluent open-source > Is Lenovo open to integration of features/capabilities of non-Lenovo > vendors > Governance. Who controls changes to the code base and future development > directions > Does xCAT remain it?s own project and share code with Confluent or do they > become one project > > There are definitely other considerations, but I just wanted to get a few > thoughts out there. My opinion is that Jarrod?s idea is one that should be > given significant thought and debate. xCAT2 was, according to everything > I?ve read, a complete rewrite of the original xCAT. Therefore, adopting > Confluent as the next version is not a bridge too far, in my opinion. I > also can?t speak to the original intentions of IBM when xCAT2 was released > with respect to multi-vendor support. I can say that as a member of the > xCAT community I would like to see the project continue as open source and > vendor agnostic. > > I would really like to hear from anyone that is interested in keeping the > project alive. I?m hopeful that we can reach a solution as a community. > > Best Regards, > > > ---- > Don Avart > CTO > RedLine Performance Solutions, LLC > (703) 634-5686 > dav...@redlineperf.com > > > On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com> > wrote: > > > > There are at least some options I've heard discussed, if anyone has > feedback: > > -Someone to take over the xCAT 2.x codebase as-is, adding some missing > stuff like Ubuntu 20+ support, RHEL9, etc. I don't know that anyone has > volunteered to go all in on all that exactly yet. > > > > -Try to establish a community around confluent (potentially as 'xCAT > 3'). This may suggest some sort of rebranding and/or governance changes, > but basically starting from confluent instead of xCAT 2 for the xCAT-like > experience. Not precisely xCAT-like but was designed "by one of the > designers of xCAT 2" with a lot of sensibilities preserved. Given that > there's not much in the way of 'backwards compatibility', I'm cautious > about the 'xCAT 3' branding, and while I would be a consistent contributor > across xCAT 2.0 through 2.8 and then confluent, it would technically be a > change from an IBM to Lenovo contributions, which I could see being a > challenge. > > > > -The current default trajectory is an archived project and people having > to decide for themselves what to do next (only 'all-in-one' options that I > know to be cross-platform are Bright and Confluent, if just OS deployment, > then I commonly see Foreman used for diskful, with Warewulf being an option > for mostly diskless scenario). Obviously, I like Confluent best, but of > course? I would. > > > > > > From: Brian Joiner <martinitime1...@gmail.com <mailto: > martinitime1...@gmail.com>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:57 AM > > To: xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto: > xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto: > xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > Subject: [External] Re: [xcat-user] Announcement: xCAT Project > End-Of-Life planned for December 1, 2023 > > > > This is the saddest thing I've hear in some time. I've had the chance > to support customers with Bright, HP cluster manager, and xCAT. xCAT was > by far the best. > > > > Thank you for all your work, I hope that a transition can happen! > > > > Thanks, Brian J > > > > > > > > On 9/1/23 11:49 AM, Nathan A Besaw via xCAT-user wrote: > >> Mark Gurevich, Peter Wong, and I have been the primary xCAT maintainers > for the past few years. This year, we have moved on to new roles unrelated > to xCAT and can no longer continue to support the project. As a result, we > plan to archive the project on December 1, 2023. xCAT 2.16.5, released on > March 7, 2023, is our final planned release. > >> > >> We would consider transitioning responsibility for the project to a new > group of maintainers if members of the xCAT community can develop a viable > proposal for future maintenance. > >> > >> Thank you all for you support of the project over the past 20+ years. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xCAT-user mailing list > >> xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > _______________________________________________ > > xCAT-user mailing list > > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > xCAT-user mailing list > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > > ------------------------------ > > End of xCAT-user Digest, Vol 168, Issue 9 > ***************************************** >
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