I'll be at SC, also interested in joining in person or virtually.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 4:16 PM Imam Toufique <techie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Don, > > I am very interested joining virtually via zoom. I would love to see xcat > move forward very much. Please count me in . > > Thanks > > On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 1:28 PM Don Avart <dav...@redlineperf.com> wrote: > >> Kurt, >> Glad to hear you are interested in getting together at SC. Hopefully >> there will be others interested in joining, if not in person at least >> virtually through a zoom. With respect to continued support for xCAT I’ve >> had numerous conversations about the possibility of keeping xCAT alive and >> what it would take to move it forward. These conversations have included >> discussions with Nathan Besaw at IBM, Jarrod Johnson of Lenovo, Marcus >> Hilger of Megware, Vinicius Ferrao as well as vendors including Dell. >> >> For our part, RedLine, is a systems integrator and like most of you all >> on this mailing group we have a long history with xCAT mostly as users but >> also occasional contributors. I too would like to see xCAT not only >> continue to exist, but to also move forward. The IBM team had >> dedicated/paid staff working on the xCAT project. I believe it will take >> dedicated developers to move xCAT forward. For our part, we have been >> looking to vendors and other entities to gauge their interest in funding >> continued support and development. The model that SchedMD employed to >> support development and in particular fund additional features for Slurm >> seems to me like a model that could be emulated. RedLine is interested in >> either leading or being a significant part of the team that moves xCAT >> forward. We would like to see the xCAT community continue to exist, >> supporting an open source product that is vendor agnostic. >> >> One idea that has come from separate conversations with Nathan Besaw, >> Jarrod Johnson and Marcus Holger would be to continue support for xCAT2 >> primarily by the community. This would be things like keeping the code >> base up date and working with various operating systems, e.g. SLES and >> Ubuntu etc. Parallel to that activity is considering Confluent as the next >> evolution of xCAT, or xCAT3. In working with Jarrod to get a basic >> Confluent setup in our lab, I can offer the following observations: >> 1. It has a similar feel as xCAT albeit with different commands. This >> should be no surprise given that Jarrod worked on xCAT for many years and >> supported the community even after starting Confluent. >> 2. It is more modular and less monolithic than xCAT. These are both >> good and bad in my opinion. For instance, I’m used to the makehosts, >> makedns, makedhcp process that xCAT uses the manage those requirements. >> DNS and DHCP are not assumed or even 100% required with Confluent so it’s >> not really built-in. This could be fantastic or this could be a real pain >> if you’re not a DNS/DHCP veteran and it’s a requirement for your setup. >> 3. When I first started with xCAT I found the Sumavi tutorials written >> be Vallard Benincosa. It walked me through the most important features of >> xCAT by taking me through an example installation. I think that Confluent >> could use an example based installation guide written from the perspective >> of a Sys Admin. >> 4. Documentation in general is sparse and from my perspective needs >> considerable work. >> 5. Appears to have been written with an eye to security, more so than >> xCAT is today. >> 6. More modern options with respect to booting, pxe and http; RedFish >> integration for hardware management and monitoring are examples. >> 7. Written in Python vs. Perl, which seems to be really just a more >> popular language these day. >> >> These are just some of my observations and I’m sure Jarrod can correct or >> comment on my thoughts. I’ve discussed these ideas with both Nathan Besaw >> at IBM and Jarrod’s management team at Lenovo. Neither has committed to >> this path but both are considering it. >> >> Hopefully this will spur more dialogue and more ideas. >> >> -Don >> —— >> Don Avart >> CTO >> RedLine Performance Solutions, LLC >> (703) 634-5686 >> dav...@redlineperf.com >> >> On Sep 30, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Kurt H Maier via xCAT-user < >> xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 05:56:26PM -0400, Don Avart wrote: >> >> All, >> Would there be interest in an unofficial “birds of a feather” type >> meeting for xCAT at SC23 to discuss the future of xCAT? I may be able to >> line up a conference room for folks attending to get together. If there’s >> interest I assume we can also include a Zoom or Teams conference for those >> unable to attend. >> >> >> I'm interested in participating. If no formal organization coalesces to >> adopt it, I'll probably wind up personally forking and maintaining the >> codebase. >> >> khm >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xCAT-user mailing list >> xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xCAT-user mailing list >> xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user >> > _______________________________________________ > xCAT-user mailing list > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user >
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