Yes, we recommend using Confluent for new clusters. We should certainly document this a little better.
For existing xCAT clusters xCAT can still be used but the mid/long term goal should be to migrate to Confluent. Confluent has 90% of xCATs features, but it can also do much more<https://hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/confluentvxcat.html> than xCAT. It is also much more modern, user-friendly and easier to understand if you spend a few days with it. I have also been a user/contributor of xCAT for >10 years, but as soon as you get to know Confluent you will quickly realize that it is very similar to xCAT in many respects, but implements many things much better. The documentation is certainly not yet perfect. We are currently discussing options to host the documentation in a more suitable place to better integrate community contributions. Otherwise, questions can now also be asked via GitHub Discussions in the Confluent Repo<https://github.com/xcat2/confluent/discussions>. For some it may be a little better and more modern than a mailing list. ?Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Markus Hilger HPC Engineer MEGWARE Computer Vertrieb und Service GmbH Tel: +49 3722 528-47 Nordstraße 19 markus.hil...@megware.com<mailto:markus.hil...@megware.com> 09247 Chemnitz-Röhrsdorf, Germany www.megware.com<http://www.megware.com/> Geschäftsführer: André Singer, Dr. Axel Auweter Amtsgericht: Chemnitz HRB 584 ________________________________ Von: Noah, Stuart via xCAT-user <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Oktober 2024 20:51 An: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>; Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com> Cc: Noah, Stuart <stuart.n...@csmc.edu>; Dodge, Calvin <calvin.do...@cshs.org> Betreff: Re: [xcat-user] [External] Fill the VPD table with rinv So, is the direction to migrate to Confluent rather than xcat? This thread tends to suggest that… Stuart Noah Senior Programmer/Analyst Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Scientific Computing, EIS From: Vinícius Ferrão via xCAT-user <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2024 8:49 AM To: Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com> Cc: Vinícius Ferrão <fer...@versatushpc.com.br>; xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [xcat-user] [External] Fill the VPD table with rinv Documentation is what missing so we can fully move to Confluent. As today I don't know where to find proper documentation regarding Stateless nodes on Confluent. I'm aware of those links: 1. The Confluent quickstart which covers stateful and Documentation is what missing so we can fully move to Confluent. As today I don't know where to find proper documentation regarding Stateless nodes on Confluent. I'm aware of those links: 1. The Confluent quickstart which covers stateful and EL8 (which is starting to be old) Confluent quickstart<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/confluentquickstart_el8.html__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68u4R4FYig$> hpc.lenovo.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/confluentquickstart_el8.html__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68u4R4FYig$> [cid:image001.png@01DB2154.00606B50]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/confluentquickstart_el8.html__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68u4R4FYig$> 2. The docs, which seems more like a FAQ other than documentation: Documentation<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68uqyObkfA$> hpc.lenovo.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68uqyObkfA$> [cid:image001.png@01DB2154.00606B50]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/documentation/__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68uqyObkfA$> 3. LiCO information which by collateral covers some Confluent aspects: LiCO<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/lico/__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68sdmkmGRQ$> hpc.lenovo.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/lico/__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68sdmkmGRQ$> [cid:image001.png@01DB2154.00606B50]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/hpc.lenovo.com/users/lico/__;!!KOmnBZxC8_2BBQ!xNA2IT4eVOoMKmMNUZZNlKgHOoKpBQ_FeRJRZU52zTOjIEuPpHJHXmVufsyWVHq5KGSjmMBZf-rEJzmn83ui68sdmkmGRQ$> I really miss other than a "readthedocs"-equivalent page, a proper confluent-users and confluent-developer mailing lists. So we can form a community. We've been hijacking the xCAT Users List to talk about Confluent, which is not ideal, IMHO. Theres' other issues in Confluent that halts the use on non Lenovo hardware, specially the branding. What didn't happen on xCAT. But that's it. Technically Confluent as today is superior, we just need to move on properly. Regards, On 18 Oct 2024, at 11:36, Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com<mailto:jjohns...@lenovo.com>> wrote: I appreciate the sentiment, though the internet feedback seems to be clear that we need to do better documenting. We can spend more time on it and will pivot to at least spend more time, though producing content is not necessarily going to make it very discoverable... So I'm quite concerned about whether we produce good documentation... But I think we'll be able to prioritize at least trying on our end (or if folks have an idea how to better collaborate on that...) ________________________________ From: Vinícius Ferrão <fer...@versatushpc.com.br<mailto:fer...@versatushpc.com.br>> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2024 10:16 AM To: Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com<mailto:jjohns...@lenovo.com>> Cc: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>> Subject: Re: [External] [xcat-user] Fill the VPD table with rinv Hi Jarrod. I'll hack around with chdef: chdef nodeName serial=`rinv nodeName serial | head -1 | awk '{print $5}'` chdef nodeName mtm=`rinv nodeName model | tail -1 | awk '{print $4}'` That worked for me. Confluent is way superior, however this cluster is still on xCAT. Thank you! On 18 Oct 2024, at 10:39, Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com<mailto:jjohns...@lenovo.com>> wrote: Unfortunately, as far as I can recall, you would be on your own. It should be reasonably possible to use sed/grep to change rinv output into nodech commands to achieve it. For what it is worth, the confluent 'nodeinventory' command has a '-s' option to do this, but doesn't have anything to do with the xCAT tables. ________________________________ From: Vinícius Ferrão via xCAT-user <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2024 9:29 PM To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>> Cc: Vinícius Ferrão <fer...@versatushpc.com.br<mailto:fer...@versatushpc.com.br>> Subject: [External] [xcat-user] Fill the VPD table with rinv Hello, is it possible to fill the VPD table for a given node with rinv command? I'm only interested in Serial Number and MTM. rinv noneName vpd works, but it does not get registered when I issue lsdef nodeName. 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