> Tim Edwards wrote:

> However, in this day and age,
> writing on trees is not necessarily the intended target, and
> perhaps it is more important to mainting consistency between
> the screen view and the SVG format output.

My primary use of xcircuit results in PDF files for me and the customer.

However, at the completion of each project, all the drawings are
printed on dead trees, so paper printing is of high value to me.

> > 1. How is transparency (alpha value) shared?
> > 1a. Fixed per-object alpha -- applies to both outline and
> >     fill. 
> > 1b. Outline and fill colors each have their own alpha.
> > 1c. Only fill color has alpha, outline has fixed 100%
> >     opaqueness
> 
> I prefer method 1c, which is consistent with the existing use
> of stipple patterns.  If you make it easy for people to make
> semi- transparent outlines, or mismatch outline and fill
> color, or boxes with rounded edges, or every font ever
> invented, then people automatically tend to go wild and
> produce the most horrid drawings that would make Edward
> Tufte's hair curl.  I prefer to make such things possible, but
> difficult enough that it will coerce people into making
> simpler, sparer drawings.

heh.  It's hard to outsmart a determined idiot. *smiles*

> One could make an argument for transparent outlines, but the
> effect is rather subtle and it doesn't seem to me necessary to
> provide the option.

I vote for 1b.  Right now I use a dashed line that's light gray
to convey a physical grouping because I can't use a
semi-transparent line.

> > 2. How are the color lists handled?
> > 2a. Separate fill and outline color lists.
> > 2b. Shared fill and outline color lists.
> 
> Using the same arguments as above, option 2b is preferred.

Sorry Tim, I vote for 2a.

I use a kludge to work around the existing limitation.  I create
two objects, one filled, one without fill.  I put the no-fill
object on top of the filled object so the outline is a different
color. than the fill.  Example?  I want to represent a light
green LED.  A light green circle is hard to see, so I want a
black outline.  So if I could make one object with a black
outline and a green fill I would not have to make two objects,
get the correct one on top, then make them a library item so
they are stuck together when I move them.

--  Philip
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