No, the situation is the same with or without an embedding nav controller. 

1. I make a new single-view iOS app.
2. I embed that view in a nav controller
3. I drag another view controller onto the storyboard
4. I try to control drag between the initial VC and the new one. No go.
5. Xcode doesn't allow me to create *any* segues except from the root nav 
controller.

What gives?
-Carl

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Alex Zavatone <z...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, there has to be one backing them all which it sound like you have done. 
> 
> Have you tried control dragging from one scene's view to the top level of the 
> view controller you want the segue to go to?
> 
> I admit it can be a clunky and frustrating experience knowing where to drag 
> to and how.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did that, no effect. Are you saying that *all* view controllers must be 
>> embedded in a nav controller? Surely not, as I can get away without it for a 
>> single level of sub view controllers.
>> 
>> -Carl
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Alex Zavatone <z...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm assuming iOS here.
>>> 
>>> Have you done the little "select your first screen and then select Embed in 
>>> >  Navigation Controller" from the Editor menu in the storyboard?
>>> 
>>> Until you've done it a few times, it's real easy to miss.
>>> 
>>> Until you've done that, the IB won't let you drag segues and sadly, it 
>>> won't tell you that you need to do that.
>>> 
>>> Hope that's it.
>>> 
>>> Alex Zavatone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Carl Hoefs wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Xcode 6.4
>>>> 
>>>> How does one create a segue from a non-initial view controller to another 
>>>> view controller? 
>>>> 
>>>> I have an InitialVC:UIViewController and I can connect any number of other 
>>>> VC's to it with control drag:
>>>> 
>>>>    InitialVC
>>>>     /    \
>>>>  A_VC    B_VC  . . .
>>>> 
>>>> I've assigned an identifier to each of the segues and can invoke them to 
>>>> bring up A_VC or B_VC at runtime with -performSegueWithIdentifier:. So far 
>>>> so good. But now I need to have segues going from A_VC to C_VC, D_VC, etc:
>>>> 
>>>>    InitialVC
>>>>     /    \
>>>>  A_VC    B_VC  . . .
>>>>  /  \
>>>> C_VC  D_VC
>>>> 
>>>> Xcode refuses to allow me to connect A_VC to C_VC or D_VC with 
>>>> control-drag. The blue line just vanishes. It doesn't matter what type of 
>>>> segue goes from InitialVC to A_VC (push, replace, modal, etc). 
>>>> 
>>>> I must be missing something real obvious here.
>>>> -Carl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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