Hi Luke,

thanks for closely looking into the manual. You are very invited to
comment and to review.
I had the chance to update the manual according to your report. Please
have a look into chapter 4.

BTW you are right. The task advancing logic lacks consistency at some
point. E.g. the AAT start claims to need the manual arm in advance, but
it works even if you ignore the arm button at all. The Info->Status page
reports a valid start every time you cross the line.
XCSoar is once more confusing when you hit the Arm after you did y valid
AAT start. 
>From a distant view it works all fine and fulfill the need, even without
the Arm function for the AAT start.

I strongly to vote for a more simple handling with less buttons in 6.1.

If you have time, have a look and comment.

Helmut

Am Donnerstag, den 24.02.2011, 12:12 -0500 schrieb Luke Szczepaniak:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just did a quick test in 6.04 and as documented in the manual the
> task restarted automatically when you cross the start line while
> flying a FAI task.  Earlier testing was done with v6.02/3 which may be
> why the task did not restart automatically, or the more likely
> explanation would be fat finger syndrome ;-).  A small inconsistency
> was discovered while testing however.  According to the manual the
> task restarts automatically only within 10 minutes of the last
> crossing of the start line.  I've tried crossing the start after 10
> minutes and the task started automatically, theoretically when flying
> a FAI task one would not cross the start line without wanting to
> restart a task, so this may be intended but the manual should reflect
> this behaviour.
> 
> Luke
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Luke Szczepaniak
> <l...@silentflight.ca> wrote:
>         Hi Tobias,
>         
>         My experience is a little different, while in AAT mode you arm
>         your start which is great but in FAI task the start is
>         defaulted to auto and I do not see a "arm restart" once I
>         cross the start line.  I will try again on the simulator and
>         report back.  I agree that the other defaults make sense.
>         
>         Luke 
>         
>         
>         
>         On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Tobias Bieniek
>         <tobias.bien...@gmx.de> wrote: 
>                 Hi Luke,
>                 
>                 from what I have experienced in flying with XCSoar
>                 last year, this setting was removed in v6 and in my
>                 opinion it isn't really needed anyway. You have to
>                 manually arm the start now (which makes sense) and
>                 also manually arm inside of an AAT sector (which also
>                 makes sense) and everything else will automatically be
>                 done for you. We are open for suggestions though.
>                 
>                 Turbo
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 Am 24.02.2011 15:47, schrieb Luke Szczepaniak: 
>                 > 
>                 > >From PM's that I have received it appears that
>                 > others are also having a problem finding this
>                 > feature I've therefore opened a ticket in bugtrac.
>                 > 
>                 > Cheers,
>                 > Luke
>                 > 
>                 > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Luke Szczepaniak
>                 > <l...@silentflight.ca> wrote:
>                 >         Hello everyone,
>                 >         
>                 >         I am most likely just being daft but I do
>                 >         not see where to set Auto/Manual/Arm Advance
>                 >         in v6.  I've had a quick look in the manual
>                 >         and I see the modes explained but I don't
>                 >         see where to actually set the option itself.
>                 >         In 5.2.4 this was part of the task
>                 >         properties. Can anyone point me in the right
>                 >         direction in V6?
>                 >         
>                 >         Luke 
>                 > 
>                 > 
>                 > 
>                 > 
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