Dear peter

After using a galaxy pad which worked very well but in my opinion is to big for 
a sailplain cockpit i have baugt myself a galaxy note n7000 which has a 
fantastic screen whith a resolution of 1280 x800 on a 5,3 " screen and a very 
stong dual processing unit. I use it with the go launcher and xcsoar 6.2.3 whwn 
you once started the database after booting the system starts whithin about 1 
second which i could not believe in the beginning. Display is super readable 
even in sunlight far better then my formerly used hd2. the holder from samsung 
is very good an can be used as is in the cockpit. cost in Germany 30 €. I use 
the stuff whith a 7007 flarm and a k6 bluetooth option which works whithout any 
problems two way. 


Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 
Peter Groß
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Am 20.12.2011 um 09:45 schrieb xcsoar-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net:

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> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:48:19 +0100
> From: Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org>
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 67, Issue 6
> To: Stefan Kamm <kamm.ste...@t-online.de>
> Cc: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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> On 2011/12/07 20:43, Stefan Kamm <kamm.ste...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> unfortunately I have to say, that the last stable version on my HX 2415
>> with Windows Mobile 5 is 6.1.4? Especially the graphics get very slow on
>> 6.2.x
> 
> On all of my test devices, 6.2.3 is the fastest release.  I would like
> to fix your problem, but I cannot reproduce / analyze it.
> 
> As always: if anybody has a problem that cannot be reproduced by
> developers, send it over to one.  Now's the right time, it's winter!
> 
> Max
> 
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> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:52:21 +0800
> From: Simon Marko <simon.ma...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 67, Issue 6
> To: Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org>
> Cc: Stefan Kamm <kamm.ste...@t-online.de>,
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> Winter in the North, but not in the Southern hemisphere - it's just kicked
> off here!
> We've just had a week of fantastic conditions in Western Australia, and I'm
> very pleased to report the airspace warning works as configured.
> 
> Our thanks to the dev team, most of our XC pilots use XCSoar 6.X
> SM
> 
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 2011/12/07 20:43, Stefan Kamm <kamm.ste...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> unfortunately I have to say, that the last stable version on my HX 2415
>>> with Windows Mobile 5 is 6.1.4? Especially the graphics get very slow on
>>> 6.2.x
>> 
>> On all of my test devices, 6.2.3 is the fastest release.  I would like
>> to fix your problem, but I cannot reproduce / analyze it.
>> 
>> As always: if anybody has a problem that cannot be reproduced by
>> developers, send it over to one.  Now's the right time, it's winter!
>> 
>> Max
>> 
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> Hi Stefan,
> 
> I have equivalent hardware so should hopefully be able to reproduce this
> problem. Please create a ticket at
> http://www.xcsoar.org/trac/newticketwith details of the data files you
> are using.
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> From: Peter Cutting <peter.cutt...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Xcsoar-user] FLARM RedBox - LXNAV V7 Vario - Android XCSoar.
>    Good    idea?
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> Hi
> I need to put a panel together soon. I am looking at something like the
> Subject line. This should be a complete competition system.
> 
> The desired functionality is
> RedBox - FLARM, IGC logger, task declaration, GPS, SD card
> V7 Vario - speed to fly, vario, audio, 5v, polars, final glide, sensor
> info, Wind?
> XCsoar - talks to V7 and RB, moving map, Flarm and much more
> 
> The 2 main problems I see are
> 
>   - software compatibility
>   - choosing the right Android device
> 
> Software. Can XCSoar:-
> 
>   - talk to the V7 and sync bugs, water, MC etc. What is missing?
>   - declare a task to the Redbox (passthru the V7)
>   - download a log from the RedBox
> 
> Android device
> There are a number of phones appearing now with 5 inch'ish screens eg
> Samsung Galaxy S2 or HTC Sensation XL or a 5 inch tablet. Just need to
> workout which ones work best in sunlight
> <goog_1896518180>
> IOIO
> Could also put an IOIO device between XCSoar and the V7 and add
> buttons/switches for things like MC, ballast, bugs, Map zoom etc if XCsoar
> supported it.
> 
> Peter
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> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] FLARM RedBox - LXNAV V7 Vario - Android
>    XCSoar.    Good idea?
> To: Peter Cutting <peter.cutt...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net"
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> On 20/12/2011, at 11:19 AM, Peter Cutting wrote:
> 
>> IOIO
>> Could also put an IOIO device between XCSoar and the V7 and add 
>> buttons/switches for things like MC, ballast, bugs, Map zoom etc if XCsoar 
>> supported it.
> 
> XCSoar supports custom NMEA strings. If you programmed the IOIO to use the 
> GPIO (it has lots) as buttons, you could easily do that. You could also code 
> it more generically in XCSoar - I don't think it  exists, but would not be 
> hard to do. E.g. create a set of pseudo events like "IOIOGPIO01..n". Once 
> that is done, then it is easy to assign those events to any function, just by 
> writing an XCI (XCSoar Input file). I have 4 buttons on my stick, that go 
> through the Vega, using flap inputs (I don't have any flaps on my Cobra), and 
> use XCI to turn those into "Next waypoint", "Drop marker", "AUX Screen / 
> Default screen switch"
> 
> Scott
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> From: Tobias Bieniek <tobias.bien...@gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] FLARM RedBox - LXNAV V7 Vario - Android
>    XCSoar. Good idea?
> To: Peter Cutting <peter.cutt...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net"
>    <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
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> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
>> Software. Can XCSoar:-
>> 
>> talk to the V7 and sync bugs, water, MC etc. What is missing?
> In general XCSoar is able to talk to all LX devices as long as they
> don't decide to change the protocol. Since we don't have such a device
> on our hands yet we can't really tell, but my guess is that it will
> work. If it doesn't you can ask the manufacturer to supply you or us
> with the necessary documentation and then we will try our best to make
> it work.
> 
>> declare a task to the Redbox (passthru the V7)
> If the Redbox uses the same protocol as the original FLARM and the V7
> just passes those sentences through this should work.
> 
>> download a log from the RedBox
> If the Redbox uses the same protocol as the original FLARM, then it
> will work from XCSoar 6.3 upwards.
> 
>> Android device
>> There are a number of phones appearing now with 5 inch'ish screens eg
>> Samsung Galaxy S2 or HTC Sensation XL or a 5 inch tablet. Just need to
>> workout which ones work best in sunlight
> Unfortunatly most phones don't have a transflective screen which is
> (at the moment) the only solution if you want a good sunlight
> readability. The Dell Streak 5/Mini is the only device in that
> category that has one, and it is amazing compared to the old PDAs and
> other hardware I've seen so far.
> 
>> IOIO
>> Could also put an IOIO device between XCSoar and the V7 and add
>> buttons/switches for things like MC, ballast, bugs, Map zoom etc if XCsoar
>> supported it.
> There are people pushing this forward already. As with all good idea:
> Please create a feature request in our bug tracker if it doesn't exist
> yet.
> 
> Turbo
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:45:01 +0000
> From: Martin Gregorie <mar...@gregorie.org>
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] FLARM RedBox - LXNAV V7 Vario - Android
>    XCSoar. Good idea?
> To: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <1324370701.13317.41.ca...@zappa.gregorie.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> 
> On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 01:19 +0100, Peter Cutting wrote:
> 
>>   - download a log from the RedBox
>> 
> The RedBox has two extra cost options to add an SD card reader and to
> add IGC logger capability.
> 
> If you add the SD card reader without the IGC logger option, you can use
> the SD card for firmware and configuration updates. This can be
> convenient if you don't own a Windows laptop or want to lug it to the
> airfield to tweak the RedBox settings or update its firmware. The RedBox
> will still output logs but they are not IGC certified. Some soaring
> leagues, e.g. the BGA National Ladder, will accept them. They can also
> be fed into the analysis tool on the FLARM site to see how good your
> FLARM antenna placement is.
> 
> If you want to use RedBox logs to claim badges, etc. you also need the
> IGC logger capability. This is just a firmware upgrade.
> 
> The SD card reader, like the its standard display, are separate from the
> RedBox. They have fairly long flying leads so you can tuck the RedBox
> itself away somewhere behind the panel and only need panel space for the
> display (48 x 23 mm) and the SD card reader (40 x 5 mm). The flying
> leads for these devices are about 520 mm long, so you should have no
> problem placing the RedBox. FWIW, mine is installed in an H.201 Libelle.
> I chose the RedBox and standard display due to limited panel space and
> I'm using the dipole antenna rather than the default 80 mm rod and
> ground plane. 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
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