Dear all. I am a newbie to xcsoar and so far very impressed with the system and
support.
I downloaded and now successfully tried it on my Samsung Charge mobil phone. It
is not as sunlight readable as a lot others I am sure but better than the Ipaq
5150 utilizing WinPilot.
As the Charge is my primary cell phone I am considering a stand alone Android
device, perhaps one that has been a proven success.
My question ; is there a device that could connect hardwire direct into my CAI
302 without any external device? ( I don't have great success so far with blue
tooth devices but who knows that could change).
Any word of wisdom appreciated.
PeterK
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1. Re: XCSOAR on 7" Android (David Reitter)
2. Re: Fwd: XCSoar exited mid-flight (Ramy Yanetz)
3. Re: XCSoar exited mid-flight (Max Kellermann)
4. Re: Fwd: XCSoar exited mid-flight (Evan Ludeman)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:36:43 -0400
From: David Reitter <david.reit...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] XCSOAR on 7" Android
To: Mike Hostage <hijack...@yahoo.com>
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On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Mike Hostage wrote:
> I had a great flight Saturday with XCSOAR 6.3 running on a 7" Android. I
used the K6BT to port my CA301 to the program. My old eyes like the larger 7"
screen, over my current IPAQ 3955. The problem is the terrible screen washout
in the cockpit.
>
> I was wondering if others had found a 7" tablet computer with a good,
sunlight compatible screen?
As others said, consider living with a Dell Streak 5 rather than the 7.
See here for a direct comparison of the Streak with the popular HP iPAQ
310/314 and an iPhone 4:
http://www.davids-world.com/bigtrip/streak5_vs_ipaq310/index.html
(I also used to have older PDAs such as a Dell Axim x51v and various Palms,
which were all (apart from the very first Palm Pilot) pretty much unreadable in
our application. The 310 was the first device I found readable in a glider,
though its power problems marred an otherwise useful piece of kit.)
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:40:41 -0700
From: Ramy Yanetz <ryan...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Fwd: XCSoar exited mid-flight
To: Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org>
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Perhaps the auto rotation should be disabled by default. After all what good
will it do if the screen auto rotates when you bank hard?
Ramy
On Apr 24, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org> wrote:
> On 2012/04/24 17:16, Brunno Lopes <bnlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've solved this by disabling the "screen auto rotation" feature, to keep
>> the screen always on portrait or landscape position. During flight, the
>> phone's position may change too fast and it seems to cause the crash. Since
>> I disabled this feature, XCSoar has been very stable.
>
> That's a good hint - I have observed buggy graphics drivers on a lot
> of Android phones. Rotating the display is something that seems
> likely to trigger such a bug. I have seen this in Google Maps, too!
>
> If this is the cause of your problems, then this is not specific to
> XCSoar, and unfortunately there is nothing I can do to help. There is
> no remedy other than getting a new Android version with updated
> drivers (which is impossible for most phones).
>
> In any case, write a bug report with a logcat, so we can confirm it
> (and document it).
>
> Max
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:49:27 +0200
From: Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] XCSoar exited mid-flight
To: Tibor Arpas <ti...@bidforfix.com>
Cc: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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On 2012/04/24 15:05, Tibor Arpas <ti...@bidforfix.com> wrote:
> But most of the time I prefer stability and reliability over new
> featers in my gliding computer. Is that just my taste? What do the
> developers think about a "long term support" version?
We don't have the resources to maintain a second stable branch. It's
really boring work, 90% of which I have to do myself. Maintaining an
even older branch is just more boring, with only few users and no
future.
We try our best to keep one stable branch with regular bug fix
releases. We cannot ultimately preclude regressions.
Every one of you can help make XCSoar more stable by taking time and
test it with replays, verify calculations, and writing bug reports,
responding to questions we have. I'm glad that this works well
already.
Max
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:54:16 -0400
From: Evan Ludeman <tangoei...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Fwd: XCSoar exited mid-flight
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Caught in the act, ticket #2034. If I need to use different options for
the logfile, LMK.
-Evan
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org> wrote:
> On 2012/04/24 17:16, Brunno Lopes <bnlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've solved this by disabling the "screen auto rotation" feature, to keep
> > the screen always on portrait or landscape position. During flight, the
> > phone's position may change too fast and it seems to cause the crash.
> Since
> > I disabled this feature, XCSoar has been very stable.
>
> That's a good hint - I have observed buggy graphics drivers on a lot
> of Android phones. Rotating the display is something that seems
> likely to trigger such a bug. I have seen this in Google Maps, too!
>
> If this is the cause of your problems, then this is not specific to
> XCSoar, and unfortunately there is nothing I can do to help. There is
> no remedy other than getting a new Android version with updated
> drivers (which is impossible for most phones).
>
> In any case, write a bug report with a logcat, so we can confirm it
> (and document it).
>
> Max
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:58:56 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Fwd: XCSoar exited mid-flight
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On 24/04/2012 17:40, Ramy Yanetz wrote:
> Perhaps the auto rotation should be disabled by default. After all what
good will it do if the screen auto rotates when you bank hard?
You would have to do a negative G manoeuvre, like a slow roll, to get
the display to rotate :-0.
Unless you are holding the device by hand in the cockpit, which is
probably not recommended.
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Max Kellermann<m...@duempel.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2012/04/24 17:16, Brunno Lopes<bnlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've solved this by disabling the "screen auto rotation" feature, to keep
>>> the screen always on portrait or landscape position. During flight, the
>>> phone's position may change too fast and it seems to cause the crash.
Since
>>> I disabled this feature, XCSoar has been very stable.
>>
>> That's a good hint - I have observed buggy graphics drivers on a lot
>> of Android phones. Rotating the display is something that seems
>> likely to trigger such a bug. I have seen this in Google Maps, too!
I have never managed to trigger an Android bug on my Dell by rotating it
with XCSoar running - on the ground not in the air! So disabling this is
not a feature that would be required on all devices.
Ian
PS: On a lighter note, maybe the USA competition rules committee would
judge this to be a feature which "allows flight without reference to the
ground" ;-)
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:30:25 +0100 (BST)
From: Sascha Haffner <s_haff...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Fwd: XCSoar exited mid-flight
To: Ian <ian-xcs...@zsd.co.za>, "xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net"
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Neither did I, not even during wave turbulence this Spring in the mountains.?
It seems to me that neither air turbulence?(at least not the one you survive to
tell about :-)) nor the bumps during landing on a grassy field seem to trigger
display rotation on my Dell.? I assume the G loads are just to short.?
Therefore, no problem.? Luckily the Dell also doesn't crash when I force
display rotation on the ground.? But I shamefully admit, I didn't try flying
XC?inverted (yet) :-)
?
Keep up the great work.
?
Cheers
Sascha
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"I have never managed to trigger an Android bug on my Dell by rotating it
with XCSoar running - on the ground not in the air! So disabling this is
not a feature that would be required on all devices.
Ian"
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