Is the port problem in the 6.3.2 version fixed i did not find anything about
that item
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3. Re: Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 70, Issue 19 (Sascha Haffner)
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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:43:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Sascha Haffner <s_haff...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 70, Issue 19
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Von: Andreas Pfaller <pfal...@gmail.com>
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Gesendet: 0:21 Freitag, 27.April 2012
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"Personally I would even remove that expert switch since currently the behavior
is potentially confusing. Imagine a user who checks the expert switch, plays
around with the options, gets confused and disables it. He will not even see
the things he changed from the default anymore although XCSoar honors the
changes he made.
Andreas"
Hi Andreas,
I see the problem you mention, however I believe expert switch or not you will
always have users, which might accidentially mess up the settings. Also, one
could think off different ways to achieve the same goal e.g. provide?a "reset
to factory settings" button?and probably many more ways.? It's a question
of?user interface philosophy - how much features and possibilities of
adjustments you would like to offer versus how safe / easy to use you would
like to make the XCS.? However, I am not in the position to judge what the
majority users want, here I would trust the development team.
Personally, I love the expert switch or better the features it uncovers.
Sascha?
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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:23:07 +1000
From: Michael Brandon <mikezulubr...@gmail.com>
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Hi Sascha,
One way of limiting the possible effects of the pilot accidentally messing
up the settings is to indicate in the user interface, when the user is
changing an option and is displaying the available settings, which of the
settings is the default one, typically by flagging it with a special
character (eg an asterisk) or marking the text in some way (eg making it
bold).
Then the pilot can see if they are using a non-default setting for any
particular option, and can either consider whether their non-standard
setting is appropriate, or just select the default setting if they aren't
sure.
Cheerio, Michael
On 27 April 2012 17:43, Sascha Haffner <s_haff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> *Von:* Andreas Pfaller <pfal...@gmail.com>
> *An:* "xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net" <
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> *Gesendet:* 0:21 Freitag, 27.April 2012
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> "Personally I would even remove that expert switch since currently the
> behavior is potentially confusing. Imagine a user who checks the expert
> switch, plays around with the options, gets confused and disables it. He
> will not even see the things he changed from the default anymore although
> XCSoar honors the changes he made.
>
> Andreas"
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> I see the problem you mention, however I believe expert switch or not you
> will always have users, which might accidentially mess up the settings.
> Also, one could think off different ways to achieve the same goal e.g.
> provide a "reset to factory settings" button and probably many more ways.
> It's a question of user interface philosophy - how much features and
> possibilities of adjustments you would like to offer versus how safe / easy
> to use you would like to make the XCS. However, I am not in the position
> to judge what the majority users want, here I would trust the development
> team.
>
> Personally, I love the expert switch or better the features it uncovers.
>
> Sascha
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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:36:03 +0100 (BST)
From: Sascha Haffner <s_haff...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 70, Issue 19
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Agree, as I said, there are probably many good?ways to achieve the goal of
users not accidentially messing up settings.
Sascha
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Von: Michael Brandon <mikezulubr...@gmail.com>
An: "xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net" <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Gesendet: 10:23 Freitag, 27.April 2012
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Hi Sascha,
?
One way of limiting the possible effects of the pilot accidentally messing up
the settings is to indicate in the user interface, when the user is changing an
option and is displaying the available settings, which of the settings is the
default one, typically by flagging it with a special character (eg an asterisk)
or marking the text in some way (eg making it bold).
??
Then the pilot can see if they are using a non-default setting for any
particular option, and can either consider whether their non-standard setting
is appropriate, or just select the default setting if they aren't sure.
?
Cheerio, Michael
On 27 April 2012 17:43, Sascha Haffner <s_haff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Von: Andreas Pfaller <pfal...@gmail.com>
>An: "xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net" <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>Gesendet: 0:21 Freitag, 27.April 2012
>Betreff: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 70, Issue 19
>
>
>
>
>"Personally I would even remove that expert switch since currently the
>behavior is potentially confusing. Imagine a user who checks the expert
>switch, plays around with the options, gets confused and disables it. He will
>not even see the things he changed from the default anymore although XCSoar
>honors the changes he made.
>
>Andreas"
>
>Hi Andreas,
>
>I see the problem you mention, however I believe expert switch or not you will
>always have users, which might accidentially mess up the settings. Also, one
>could think off different ways to achieve the same goal e.g. provide?a "reset
>to factory settings" button?and probably many more ways.? It's a question
>of?user interface philosophy - how much features and possibilities of
>adjustments you would like to offer versus how safe / easy to use you would
>like to make the XCS.? However, I am not in the position to judge what the
>majority users want, here I would trust the development team.
>
>Personally, I love the expert switch or better the features it uncovers.
>
>Sascha?
>
>
>
>
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