dragging the finger into any direction on the map it currently used to
draw gestures for zooming in/out, opening the waypoint list or
analysis, and so on. implementing your suggestion is possible but that
would mean giving up on the gestures and I don't think we should do
that...

Turbo



2012/6/22 Peter Kovari <p.kov...@sbcglobal.net>:
> Speaking of the GO-TO features; by all means I'm not a developer, not even
> close, and only understand what is or is not user friendly and easily
> accessible.
> There is a nice feature in WinPilot and I also think in SeeYou mobile ,
> where one can simply enable GO TO by dragging a finger in the desired
> direction on the screen (for X miles) which will bring up all the waypoints
> in that direction in the right sequence of distance.
> Would this be possible to implement?
> Best to All. PeterK
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> From: David Anisman <david.anis...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] double-click interval too short
> To: Ramy Yanetz <ryan...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: XCSoar Users List <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "f...@math.uiuc.edu" <f...@math.uiuc.edu>
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> Another one bites the dust.....enhancement request #2010 was just banished
> to the Wishlist.....
>
> David
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Ramy Yanetz <ryan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Kevin, there is already a bug #2010 for GoTo with precisely the same
>> suggestion. Hopefully it will be implemented for 6.4.
>>
>> Ramy
>>
>> On May 17, 2012, at 3:44 PM, "Kevin Ford" <f...@math.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I've made 3 flights with 6.3.1 and another problem arose (which will be
>> > another ticket once I've sleuthed it a bit more).  The wind calculation
>> > from circling works early in the flight and then "quits" later, so in
>> > thermalling mode I can see a pronounced drift instead of concentric
>> > circles.  I had no problems with 6.2.6.
>> >
>> > Back to the double-click issue, it still would be nice to have a quick
>> way
>> > to GoTo any airport on the map.  In 6.3.3 this requires 4 operations
>> > (click on airport, get the dreaded "map element..." page, clikc the
>> > airport agai, click "Details" then click "Goto").  Try doing that
>> > error-free in turbulence.  How about when selecting an airport, that
>> > "Goto" appears as one of the immediate options?
>> >
>> > Kevin
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 4:44 pm, Ramy Yanetz wrote:
>> >> I am having the same issue when interacting with XCSoar, such as when
>> >> trying to zoom and change pages. I often get the map list instead,
>> >> which
>> >> then require additional tap to cancel.
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Kevin that it will be better to show the map list only
>> >> when
>> >> tapping a waypoint or an airspace. I understand that the tradeoff will
>> be
>> >> not being able to check distance and arrival altitude to places which
>> are
>> >> not in the waypoint list.
>> >> Other than that the map elements is a great feature when clicking on an
>> >> area with multiple waypoints and/or airspace, allowing you to select
>> >> the
>> >> info you want. I just wish it would cover a little larger area, as it
>> >> often takes multiple attempts to bring up a waypoint even when tapping
>> >> carefully.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ramy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> From: Kevin Ford <f...@math.uiuc.edu>
>> >>> To: XCSoar Users List  <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:47 AM
>> >>> Subject: [Xcsoar-user] double-click interval too short
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I opened a ticket on this issue.  The double-click interval is very
>> >>> short,
>> >>> about 1/4 second in ver 6.3.1.  In flight trying to double-tap with a
>> >>> finger most often produces "Map element at this location" instead of
>> >>> bringing up the main menu.  This is incredibly annoying, as I had to
>> hit
>> >>> "Cancel" to get back to the map over and over again.  Missing the
>> >>> double-click interval in 6.2.6 simply did nothing and left me on the
>> map
>> >>> page, and the double-click interval was longer (at least 1/3 second on
>> >>> the
>> >>> linux version).  In flight, since "Map element..." is a single-click
>> >>> mode,
>> >>> I thought that I wasn't tapping hard enough to register the
>> >>> double-tap.
>> >>> Harder and harder I tapped and still the same error :-(  Only
>> >>> experimenting with the linux version (with a mouse) did I find the
>> actual
>> >>> problem.
>> >>> Further experimenting on the ground with my PNA revealed that light
>> taps
>> >>> do not often register, and double-hard taps take longer.  I suggest
>> >>> increasing the double-click interval to 1/2 second or more, now that
>> >>> single-clicking on blank part of the map has another function in 6.3+.
>> >>> Better yet, in addition remove the "single-click gives "Map
>> >>> element..."
>> >>> page" entirely.  If I click on an airport, OK, but a single click on a
>> >>> blank part of the map should not do anything (in turbulence it's easy
>> to
>> >>> accidently touch the screen if your hand is near).
>> >>>
>> >>> Kevin Ford
>> >>>
>> >>>
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> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] double-click interval too short
> To: David Anisman <david.anis...@gmail.com>
> Cc: XCSoar Users List <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "f...@math.uiuc.edu" <f...@math.uiuc.edu>
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> well, adding a goto button to the waypoint list items unfortunatly
> isn't technically quite as easy as it sounds. also I'm not sure if
> this is such a good idea because an accidental click on the button
> will have larger consequences. unless there is a better idea proposed
> I'm not really keen on spending my time with this. I think that the
> way to get to the goto button is okay, if you think differently find a
> developer who agrees and improve the situation. remember that this is
> open source software and if you don't agree with a decision that the
> core developers make then you are free to use a personalised version
> that fixes your issues.
>
> Turbo
>
>
> 2012/6/21 David Anisman <david.anis...@gmail.com>:
>> Another one bites the dust.....enhancement request #2010 was just banished
>> to the Wishlist.....
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Ramy Yanetz <ryan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kevin, there is already a bug #2010 for GoTo with precisely the same
>>> suggestion. Hopefully it will be implemented for 6.4.
>>>
>>> Ramy
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2012, at 3:44 PM, "Kevin Ford" <f...@math.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I've made 3 flights with 6.3.1 and another problem arose (which will be
>>> > another ticket once I've sleuthed it a bit more). ?The wind calculation
>>> > from circling works early in the flight and then "quits" later, so in
>>> > thermalling mode I can see a pronounced drift instead of concentric
>>> > circles. ?I had no problems with 6.2.6.
>>> >
>>> > Back to the double-click issue, it still would be nice to have a quick
>>> > way
>>> > to GoTo any airport on the map. ?In 6.3.3 this requires 4 operations
>>> > (click on airport, get the dreaded "map element..." page, clikc the
>>> > airport agai, click "Details" then click "Goto"). ?Try doing that
>>> > error-free in turbulence. ?How about when selecting an airport, that
>>> > "Goto" appears as one of the immediate options?
>>> >
>>> > Kevin
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 4:44 pm, Ramy Yanetz wrote:
>>> >> I am having the same issue when interacting with XCSoar, such as when
>>> >> trying to zoom and change pages. I often get the map list instead,
>>> >> which
>>> >> then require additional tap to cancel.
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree with Kevin that it will be better to show the map list only
>>> >> when
>>> >> tapping a waypoint or an airspace. I understand that the tradeoff will
>>> >> be
>>> >> not being able to check distance and arrival altitude to places which
>>> >> are
>>> >> not in the waypoint list.
>>> >> Other than that the map elements is a great feature when clicking on
>>> >> an
>>> >> area with multiple waypoints and/or airspace, allowing you to select
>>> >> the
>>> >> info you want. I just wish it would cover a little larger area, as it
>>> >> often takes multiple attempts to bring up a waypoint even when tapping
>>> >> carefully.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ramy
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>> From: Kevin Ford <f...@math.uiuc.edu>
>>> >>> To: XCSoar Users List ?<xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:47 AM
>>> >>> Subject: [Xcsoar-user] double-click interval too short
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I opened a ticket on this issue. ?The double-click interval is very
>>> >>> short,
>>> >>> about 1/4 second in ver 6.3.1. ?In flight trying to double-tap with a
>>> >>> finger most often produces "Map element at this location" instead of
>>> >>> bringing up the main menu. ?This is incredibly annoying, as I had to
>>> >>> hit
>>> >>> "Cancel" to get back to the map over and over again. ?Missing the
>>> >>> double-click interval in 6.2.6 simply did nothing and left me on the
>>> >>> map
>>> >>> page, and the double-click interval was longer (at least 1/3 second
>>> >>> on
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> linux version). ?In flight, since "Map element..." is a single-click
>>> >>> mode,
>>> >>> I thought that I wasn't tapping hard enough to register the
>>> >>> double-tap.
>>> >>> Harder and harder I tapped and still the same error :-( ?Only
>>> >>> experimenting with the linux version (with a mouse) did I find the
>>> >>> actual
>>> >>> problem.
>>> >>> Further experimenting on the ground with my PNA revealed that light
>>> >>> taps
>>> >>> do not often register, and double-hard taps take longer. ?I suggest
>>> >>> increasing the double-click interval to 1/2 second or more, now that
>>> >>> single-clicking on blank part of the map has another function in
>>> >>> 6.3+.
>>> >>> Better yet, in addition remove the "single-click gives "Map
>>> >>> element..."
>>> >>> page" entirely. ?If I click on an airport, OK, but a single click on
>>> >>> a
>>> >>> blank part of the map should not do anything (in turbulence it's easy
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> accidently touch the screen if your hand is near).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Kevin Ford
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:05:58 -0400
> From: Luke Szczepaniak <l...@silentflight.ca>
> Subject: [Xcsoar-user] Bug with AAT
> To: XCSoar <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Cc: Derek Mackie <itshd...@gmail.com>, Krzysztof Wiercioch
> <k.wierci...@gmail.com>, Nick Bonniere
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> We seem to have discovered a bug with 6.3.6 and 6.3.5 concerning AAT tasks.
>  I will try to describe what we are experiencing to the best of my ability,
> I apologize in advance if I am not being clear.  When creating the task the
> Turn Areas are just big cylinders but all the calculations are done to the
> center of the Turn Area, not the optimized point.  The Target button is
> missing from the calculator.  You can change this by making the task to
> racing, exiting out of task planner, going back into task planner, setting
> the task to AAT then exiting the task planner again.  I have confirmed this
> with 2 other XCSoar users.  After I roll back to 6.3.4 the issue
> disappears, can someone else recreate this behaviour and let me know?  If
> so I will create a report in Bug Trac.
>
> Cheers,
> Luke Szczepaniak
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