The full trail is useful only the first few hours. After that XCSoar trims if 
to only few points making it difficult to locate the same wave later. I opened 
a ticket for this almost 2 years ago but so far it had been largely ignored. 

Ramy

On Sep 26, 2013, at 6:28 AM, Dan Marotta <dcmaro...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I've found it quite simple to fly wave with XCSoar simply with full 
> trails displayed and wind drift in cruise turned off.  On initial 
> thermal entry through the rotor, it's best to have the zoom level set 
> high so you can find small areas of the wave which dip lower than 
> others.  With that setup, you have a graphic display of where the lift 
> is located and where it is the strongest, and it's very easy to return 
> to the best lift on each pass during a climb.
> 
> Of course, the wave is not stationary, but the trail gives a good 
> starting point to look for lift having been exploring elsewhere for 
> quite some time.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On 9/26/2013 2:32 AM, Ian wrote:
>> On 26/09/2013 01:10, Scott Penrose wrote:
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> *From: *steve jennings <skjjenni...@gmail.com
>>>> I have been using xcsoar for a year and I am very grateful for the
>>>> amasing work you have done.Xcsoar has made me much more efficient at
>>>> flying in thermals.I was wondering how difficult it would be to write
>>>> a program that would use existing formulas to predict the locations
>>>> and heights of the different waves within one system.Maybe there could
>>>> be a visual indicator that would show us where we are within the wave
>>>> system. For example the program could show us the time left to the
>>>> next wave, warn us if we are too low, or if there are any obstacles
>>>> etc. .I have no idea how much work is involved since I have no
>>>> knowledge of programming.  I understand that this is a none lucrative
>>>> endeavor which makes me even more appreciative of your hard work. They
>>>> say you can't teach and old dog new tricks , well you have. I would
>>>> like to thank you in advance for everything.
>> I have a similar interest. Some of the things I have been thinking about:
>> 
>> 
>> 1) The facility to setup a wave/ridge flying page on XCSoar with:
>> 
>> - Wind drift on trail switched off
>> - Fixed zoom at high level
>> 
>> Then you can build up a picture of the wave system you are flying in and
>> find the lift again when you need it.
>> 
>> The idea is to setup a page that you can swipe to when you encounter
>> ridge/wave. I believe the required functions are in the pipeline with
>> development version of XCSoar, I have not checked its current status
>> recently.
>> 
>> 
>> 2) Flarm radar is a useful tool if there are multiple gliders flying in
>> the wave system - you can quickly locate others who have already located
>> the lift. This is already available.
>> 
>> 
>> 3) Then I would like to overlay on that RASP forecasts on XCSoar.
>> Ideally it would be good to overlay "pressure level cross section"
>> images. Like this historical one from an interesting wave forecast:
>> 
>> http://users.zsd.co.za/~ian2/rasp/20130425/press500.curr.1400lst.w2.png
>> 
>> XCSoar would ideally automatically display the most relevant available
>> image, based on altitude and time of day.
>> 
>> Note the images have to be prepared from a RASP forecast in advance.
>> There is some work to be done on the RASP side too. There already exists
>> a utility for extracting images for XCSoar from RASP forecasts and a
>> facility for displaying them. But I don't think that utility processes
>> "pressure level cross sections" as these are composite images with
>> multiple parameters displayed (lift and wind barbs). I host the RASP
>> forecasts for South West South Africa so I will look into the RASP side
>> of things when I get a chance.
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
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