Waldo Bastian wrote:

Or should we just clarify datadir to mean $prefix/share and sysconfdir to mean $prefix/etc, or /etc when
$prefix is /usr?


That just moves the problem to figuring out what $prefix is supposed to be. And if an application installs to /opt/myApp/ in accordance with LSB then it can't use /opt/myApp as $prefix because that's unlikely to be included in XDG_DATA_DIRS

Well, looking at the FHS that seems to be what is intended. ISV software that installs into /opt/myApp, then binaries (in /opt/myApp/bin) aren't in the default PATH, its man pages (in /opt/myApp/share/man) aren't in the MANPATH, etc. without the system administrator or the user including them with explicit (manual) action. From a systematic POV the same should hold for desktop integration files: they aren't in the default search pathes unless an admin or user explicitly adds the new location to XDG_DATA_DIRS (and possibly XDG_CONFIG_DIRS).

Locally built and installed software goes into /usr/local, so will be in the default PATH if /usr/local/bin is, and will be in the menus through /usr/local/share.

Should this all be done in a spec outside the Menu Spec? Don't "we" already do this outside the Menu Spec, in the Linux
Standards Base Filesystem Hierarchy Standard document?

Well, the closest thing the FHS describes is where to store man-pages (/usr/share/man)

It [*] also says man pages for optional packages should go into /opt/<package>/share/man ...

That all said, there should be a specification for how ISVs can automate making their applications available globally without requiring manual user or admin intervention. I'm not sure what the best approach is here, though. Some possibilities include symlinking the package specific files into a well-known directory (under /opt/share or /usr/local/share) or a file in /etc that lists directories which should be included in the XDG_.._DIRS. Of course any XDG...DIRS-modifying method requires user sessions to be restarted in order to pick up the changes:-( And of course for such a method there should be a way to switch this off on systems where admins want to stay in control and prefer manual changes.

Maybe the best solution is a system-provided menu-integrate script, that can be pointed at /opt/myApp and then follows the solution the OSV prefers.

[*] I'm referring to the general FHS from <http://www.pathname.com/fhs/> I don't know if LSB adds much specific interpretation, but then I don't think we ought to mandate a linux-specific interpretation on fd.o.

- Joerg

PS: Note that these are completely my personal musings on this matter.

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Joerg Barfurth              Sun Microsystems - Desktop - Hamburg
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