Keith Packard wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 22:18 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
In the GNOME font chooser dialog all 16 of the fonts I listed with the
family name "Helvetica" are listed under "Helvetica" the "Family"
window. So, there are 16 selections available in the: "Style" window
and they are NOT sorted into any logical order:
Condensed Light
Light
Condensed Light Oblique
Light Oblique
Condensed Medium
Regular
Narrow
Condensed Oblique
Oblique
Narrow Oblique
Condensed Bold
Bold
Condensed Bold Oblique
Narrow Bold Oblique
Bold Oblique
Fortunately, fontconfig provides enough information to sort these
sensibly; it breaks out weight/slant information into separate fields
and also provides (as of today) a way to detect "decorative" faces
(shadowed, outlined, etc). What has been fixed is the insistance that
fonts only have two kind of variation (bold/regular, italic/roman), what
remains to be done is to present the available information sensibly. Ask
me for the information you need, but don't ask me how to present it to
the user...
As I stated earlier in the thread. FontConfig has it right -- provides
this information. Which makes me wonder even more why the application
level stuff doesn't get it right.
It isn't 100% yet, I did find one error:
For Helvetica (Type1), the" "fonts.cache-1" file lists:
"hvc_____.pfb" 0 "Helvetica:style=Condensed \
Medium:slant=0:weight=100:width=75:
"hvn_____.pfb" 0 "Helvetica:style=Narrow:slant=0:weight=100:width=100:
"hv______.pfb" 0 "Helvetica:style=Regular:slant=0:weight=100:width=100:
so I appear to have found one minor error. I'm not certain what the
width for Helvetica Narrow should be but it would obviously be between
75 and 100.
Do you think that FontConfig should address the problem with TrueType
fonts where with Type1 the family name for Helvetica Narrow is:
Helvetica
but with Type1 it is:
Helvetica Narrow
Yes MicroSoft is responsible for the fact that TrueType names are
broken, but we really need them to match in *NIX. I find that many apps
are built for the TrueType model :-( so I don't really know which way it
would be better to convert. Perhaps the cache file could do it both ways.
Also note: "style=Condensed Medium" above. Some of the AFM files have
errors in them -- this one for example. It should really be:
"style=Condensed" but the fault lies in the AFM file. Should
FontConfig attempt to fix this?
Note I like your product (keep up the good work!), but I am a retired
engineer and am advising you of the minor issues I found to try to help.
That is what engineers are taught to do, find the fault in stuff.
That is the first step in improving something.
--
JRT
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