Excellent, thanks Vincent! Cheers, Waldo Intel Corporation - Platform Software Engineering, UMG - Hillsboro, Oregon -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Mantha Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: couple questions about menu spec
It seems that Vincent Untz has recently fixed the "Application" category bug in gnome recently [0]. It seems to be fixed in 2.19.2 anyway. Of course that doesn't help people with older versions of Gnome though. I'll try to work up a patch soonish and send it to the list for more discussion, thanks. -Jordan Mantha [0] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331142 Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> If the .desktop is installed on an older Gnome system that didn't > support > Science as a main category it would get dumped into "Other" > > Yes, that was the intention of the spec, unfortunately that doesn't work > on any of the Redhat distributions. I notice that it does work if you > add the undocumented category "Application" so I guess it would work to > make a Science a main category with the additional requirement that > applications must also provide "Application" as category. Feel free to > send a patch against > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.xml to the list > for review. > > Cheers, > Waldo > > Intel Corporation - Platform Software Engineering, UMG - Hillsboro, > Oregon > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Mantha > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: couple questions about menu spec > > I'm afraid I don't really see the problem. Right now .desktops with a > Science category are supposed to have the Education main category as > well. This means in Gnome the science apps show up in the Education menu > and in KDE I believe they go into Education->Science. If Science was > promoted to a main category in the spec then we could just drop > Education from the list of categories. If the .desktop is installed on > an older Gnome system that didn't support Science as a main category it > would get dumped into "Other" and I believe a similar thing happens in > KDE. In general however, I don't see this being that big of an issue. I > would think that the new category would be picked up by Gnome, KDE, etc. > fairly quickly, even before many software authors would pick up the > changes. So to me the upgrade path is: update fd.o spec -> DEs pick up > the change -> software authors and distros change .desktops . I suppose > during the transition period there will surely be some small number of > .desktop on older systems that get dumped into Other or worst-case just > don't appear, but science apps in general haven't adopted .desktops very > well yet so I don't really see this as a big problem. > > It would seem odd to me to have a specification in which no adjustments > can be made. > > Thoughts? > > -Jordan Mantha > > Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> The general problem with adding a main category is that on many older >> distributions that do not support such new main category yet, desktop >> files that use this new main category will not be shown at all. >> >> There is not really a good upgrade path. >> >> Cheers, >> Waldo >> >> Intel Corporation - Platform Software Engineering, UMG - Hillsboro, >> Oregon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Mantha >> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:26 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: couple questions about menu spec >> >> Hello all, >> >> I've got two questions about the freedesktop.org Menu spec that'd I'd >> love to see clarified. >> 1) There are quite a number of scientific applications that are >> professional tools rather than educational tools. I've been asked > quite >> a few times why Science isn't a main category for menus. According to >> the spec .desktop files with Science in Categories must also have >> Education category also. I can understand that having too many Main >> categories could get messy, but I think there is a fairly significant >> distinction between Science (and Mathematics for that matter) >> applications used in education and those used for professional > research. >> So my question is, is there a reason Science couldn't become a main >> category? >> >> 2) The menu spec glossary says that only .desktops of type Application >> are allowed for Desktop entries. I've got several cases where adding >> .desktops with type Link to menu structures is helpful. For instance > in >> educational setting, having links to websites related to the subject >> along with the applications is great for kids. You can imagine having >> links to the Chemistry WebBook and Wolfram's MathWorld along with >> science and math apps. Right now we can get around this by creating >> .desktop files that execute a web browser with the desired URL, but I >> think that it's not very intuitive. In Gnome, for instance, I find it > a >> bit inconsistent that you can have Type=Link .desktops on the desktop >> but not in the menu. Any thoughts on feasibility? >> >> -Jordan Mantha >> _______________________________________________ >> xdg mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg >> > > > _______________________________________________ > xdg mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg > _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
