I have to correct myself, sorry. > Thus, Gnome and KDE advocates should be aware that this is an > issue that does affect only people that do _not_ use DEs. This is wrong. As Samuel explained very well:
> Thinking again about it, this makes unattended launches more difficult. > Such launches can be useful when a sighted user is working, and a > non-sighted co-worker comes to work over something. Starting the screen > reader from a launcher just for the time when he is there, and not > permanently through configuration, makes complete sense. Let me explain this problem using another disability as example. As I am deaf, I have to use screen flashing utilities as a replacement for the beeper. (See here for example: http://serverfault.com/questions/19743/is-there-a-visual-bell-in-linux-that-works-in-x ) Thus if I have to do things on another ones' computer account which require me to notice beeps I would be forced to change settings, and change them back to original settings after finishing. In other words, I would be forced to change the system configuration _twice_. If I could just go the menu path Utility->Accessibility->Visual_Bell to run the utility, then there won't be any need to tamper with the system configuration. Thus a category "Accessibility" makes perfect sense imho. On 5/24/16, Stefan Blachmann <[email protected]> wrote: > If I understand Sam correctly, his suggestion is about adding an > additional category Utilities→Accessibility. (see > https://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apas02.html ) > > First, Gnome and KDE are not xdg menu specification compliant. > Second, these DEs have a settings menu. Window managers like FVWM do > not have such. > Thus, Gnome and KDE advocates should be aware that this is an issue > that does affect only people that do _not_ use DEs. > > Thus imho it makes perfect sense and is actually overdue to add such a > subcategory “Accessibility” to the xdg menu spec. > > > On 5/24/16, Samuel Thibault <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bastien Nocera, on Mon 23 May 2016 11:54:44 +0200, wrote: >>> We also prefer to have any accessibility utilities integrated directly >>> in the Settings panel, instead of launching separate applications. This >>> is the reason why we removed the orca launcher in GNOME now. >> >> Thinking again about it, this makes unattended launches more difficult. >> Such launches can be useful when a sighted user is working, and a >> non-sighted co-worker comes to work over something. Starting the screen >> reader from a launcher just for the time when he is there, and not >> permanently through configuration, makes complete sense. >> >> Samuel >> _______________________________________________ >> xdg mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg >> > _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
