Re: Spec to define the default terminal?

[Vladimir Kudrya]

I would very much like to receive some additional feedback and a rough assessment of whether this concept has any chance of being turned into a spec. 2017-05-25 18:21, Vladimir Kudrya пишет: Script updated. Now the list of config files is pregenerated based on $CONFIG_HIERARCHY and $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP treated as lists. 2017-05-25 17:07, Vladimir Kudrya пишет: From here: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/latest/ar01s02.html This is determined from taking the ascii-lowercase form of a component the environment variable $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP, which is a colon-separated list of names that the current desktop is known as. I'll make the changes accordingly. 2017-05-25 17:02, Roman Chistokhodov пишет: There's already lowercase version in XDG_MENU_PREFIX variable (it also usually includes trailing '-') which is part of menu spec. But I'm not sure if it's applicable here. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Vladimir Kudrya <vladimir-...@yandex.ru> wrote: Merged, thanks! $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP... Not sure. Probably it's from pam_systemd. It would be more reliable to take lowercase of $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then. 2017-05-25 16:53, Roman Chistokhodov пишет: I found error in processing TryExec. Made pull request. What the specification is XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP part of? On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Vladimir Kudrya <vladimir-...@yandex.ru> wrote: I'm backing up my proposal with some code: https://github.com/Vladimir-csp/xdg-terminal-exec Please test. 2017-05-25 10:09, Vladimir Kudrya пишет: So now xdg-termial is a collection of workarouds to tie different DE's approaches together. Just like xdg-open. IMHO, there should be a movement towards proper standards. @Simon, with your remarks taken into accout, here is an update: Using desktop entries to define terminals gives advantages to downstream tools (selector GUIs, etc.) by providing proper descriptions, l10n. Places to look could be extended beyond /usr, into a proper ${XDG_DATA_[HOME|DIRS]} hierarchy, so it would look like this: Terminal descriptios: ~/.local/share/xdg-terminals ($XDG_DATA_HOME) {/usr/local/share,/usr/share}/xdg-terminals ($XDG_DATA_DIRS) Configs: ~/.config/$desktop-xdg-terminals.list ($XDG_CONFIG_HOME) ~/.config/xdg-terminals.list /etc/xdg/$desktop-xdg-terminals.list ($XDG_CONFIG_DIRS) /etc/xdg/xdg-terminals.list If this logic would be embeded into xdg-terminal, that would be a great start. 2017-05-25 09:16, Simon Lees wrote: We already have the xdg-terminal binary which launches the terminal based off the currently running desktop. I think a better approach would be to integrate with that existing infrastructure, it could be modified for example to check for the existence of a config file in 1 maybe several dirs (I guess a sysadmin may want to configure a default terminal for all his users). That config file would contain the path to the terminal followed by the exec command. This approach is less secure as someone could modify the config file without you realising (I guess this could happen anyway). I don't like the idea of describing exec arguments only somewhere in /usr, it would mean that if I was working on a machine that I didn't have root access to and I wanted to use some less popular or new terminal that hadn't been added to the list yet I wouldn't be able to. I also wouldn't be able to use a terminal that I had built from source in my home dir and added to my path. I also think in the days of the X11 / wayland transition prefixing the config files with xdg- rather then x- is a better approach, I may be on my own with that though. Cheers _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg

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