Hi Andrii,

Thank you very much for your feedback, please see my answers below.

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Andrii Anisov <andrii_ani...@epam.com>
wrote:

> Dear Mirela,
>
> Please see my comments below:
>
>
>
> On 09.08.17 20:43, Mirela Simonovic wrote:
>
>> This document contains our draft proposal for implementing "suspend to
>> RAM"
>> support for ARM in Xen, as discussed during the last Xen ARM community
>> call.
>> It covers the basic suspend to RAM mechanism based on ARM PSCI standard,
>> that would allow individual guests and Xen itself to suspend.
>>
>> We would appreciate your feedback.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Mirela Simonovic <mirela.simono...@aggios.com>
>> ---
>>   docs/misc/arm/suspend-to-ram.txt | 210 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> +++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 210 insertions(+)
>>   create mode 100644 docs/misc/arm/suspend-to-ram.txt
>>
>> diff --git a/docs/misc/arm/suspend-to-ram.txt
>> b/docs/misc/arm/suspend-to-ram.txt
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000000..ec8080fc64
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/docs/misc/arm/suspend-to-ram.txt
>> @@ -0,0 +1,210 @@
>> +% Suspend to RAM Support in Xen for ARM
>> +% Revision 1.0
>> +
>> +========
>> +Overview
>> +========
>> +
>> +Suspend to RAM (in the following text 'suspend') for ARM in Xen should be
>> +coordinated using ARM PSCI standard [1].
>> +
>> +EL1/2 should suspend in the following order:
>> +1) Unprivileged guests (DomUs) suspend
>> +2) Privileged guest (Dom0) suspends
>> +3) Xen suspends
>>
> This order description makes an impression that unprivileged guest suspend
> triggers the system suspend, what is not true as per following text.

Instead I would describe separately two scenarios: suspend of an
> unprivileged domain and suspend of a privileged domain. E.g:
>     Suspend of an unprivileged domain will:
>         - suspend this domain only
>
>     Suspend of a privileged domain will consequently:
>         - trigger suspend of unprivileged domains
>

By this proposal triggering suspend of unprivileged guests will not be
done. However, I agree the scenario should work as you described and we
plan to support that as well.
In this proposal we focused only on PSCI-based mechanisms that will enable
top-down suspend to RAM flow. Once we have the mechanisms, we'll send a
proposal for supporting the coordination with domains, which will include
triggering suspend of unprivileged guests. Coordination will build on top
of what we propose here.


>         - suspend privileged domain itself
>         - trigger suspend of Xen hypervisor
>
>
> +
>> +Since this proposal is focused on implementing PSCI-based suspend
>> mechanisms in
>> +Xen, communication with or among the guests is not covered by this
>> document.
>> +The order of suspending the guests is assumed to be guaranteed by the
>> software
>> +running in EL1.
>> +
>> +-----------------
>> +Suspending Guests
>> +-----------------
>> +
>> +Suspend procedure for a guest consists of the following:
>> +1) Suspending devices
>> +2) Suspending non-boot CPUs
>> +3) System suspend, performed by the boot CPU
>> +
>> +Each guest should suspend the devices it owns. Suspending of devices is
>> not
>> +covered by this document. The document covers only mechanisms for
>> suspending
>> +non-boot CPUs, as well as the system suspend.
>> +
>> +Guests should suspend their non-boot vCPUs using the hotplug mechanism.
>> +Virtual CPUs should be put offline using the already implemented PSCI
>> vCPU_OFF
>> +call (prefix 'v' is added to distinguish PSCI calls made by guests to
>> Xen, which
>> +affect virtual machines; as opposed to PSCI calls made by Xen to the
>> EL3, which
>> +can affect power state of the physical machine).
>> +
>> +After suspending its non-boot vCPUs a guest should finalize the suspend
>> by
>> +making the vSYSTEM_SUSPEND PSCI call. The resume address is specified by
>> the
>> +guest via the vSYSTEM_SUSPEND entry_point_address argument. The
>> vSYSTEM_SUSPEND
>> +call is currently not implemented in Xen.
>> +
>> +It is expected that a guest leaves enabled all interrupts that should
>> wake it
>> +up. Other interrupts should be disabled by the guest prior to calling
>> +vSYSTEM_SUSPEND.
>> +
>> +After an unprivileged guest suspends, Xen will not suspend. Xen would
>> suspend
>> +only after the Dom0 completes the system suspend.
>> +
>> +--------------
>> +Suspending Xen
>> +--------------
>> +
>> +Xen should start suspending itself upon receiving the vSYSTEM_SUSPEND
>> call
>> +from the last running guest (Dom0). At that moment all physical CPUs are
>> still
>> +online (taking offline a vCPU or suspending a VM does not affect
>> physical CPUs).
>> +Xen shall now put offline the non-boot pCPUs by making the CPU_OFF PSCI
>> call
>> +to EL3. The CPU_OFF PSCI function is currently not implemented in Xen.
>> +
>> +After putting offline the non-boot cores Xen must save the context and
>> finalize
>> +suspend by invoking SYSTEM_SUSPEND PSCI call, which is passed to EL3.
>> +The resume point of Xen is specified by the entry_point_address argument
>> of the
>> +SYSTEM_SUSPEND call. The SYSTEM_SUSPEND function and context saving is
>> not
>> +implemented in Xen for ARM today.
>> +
>> +------------
>> +Resuming Xen
>> +------------
>> +
>> +Xen must be resumed prior to any software running in EL1. Starting from
>> the
>> +resume point, Xen should restore the context and resume Dom0. Dom0 shall
>> always
>> +be resumed whenever Xen resumes.
>> +The whole Xen resume flow for the ARM architecture has to be implemented.
>> +
>> +---------------
>> +Resuming Guests
>> +---------------
>> +
>> +Resume of the privileged guest (Dom0) is always following the Xen resume.
>> +
>> +An unprivileged guest shall resume once a device it owns triggers a
>> wake-up
>> +interrupt, regardless of whether Xen was suspended when the wake-up
>> interrupt
>> +was triggered.
>>
> Will an event channel interrupt wake an unprivileged domain from suspend?
>
>
Yes


>
>   If Xen was suspended, it is assumed that Dom0 will be running
>> +before the DomU guest starts to resume. The synchronization mechanism to
>> +enforce the assumed condition is TBD.
>> +
>> +If the ARM's GIC was powered down after the ARM subsystem suspended, it
>> is
>> +assumed that Xen needs to restore the GIC interface for a VM prior to
>> handing
>> +over control to the guest. However, the guest should restore its own
>> context
>> +upon entering the resume point (out of scope of this document).
>> +
>> +=======================
>> +Implementation Proposal
>> +=======================
>> +
>> +--------
>> +Overview
>> +--------
>> +
>> +In order to enable the suspend/resume of VMs and Xen itself, the
>> following PSCI
>> +calls have to be implemented and integrated in Xen:
>> +1) vSYSTEM_SUSPEND
>> +2) CPU_OFF
>> +3) SYSTEM_SUSPEND
>> +
>> +In addition, the following have to be implemented:
>> +* Save/restore of EL2 context
>> +* Save/restore of GIC configuration for each VM
>> +
>> +Implementation details are provided in the sections below. Function
>> names and
>> +paths used below are consistent within the document but may not always
>> match the
>> +names used in future implementation. Existing functions and paths are
>> named as
>> +in Xen source tree.
>> +
>> +Note: The proposal is still incomplete and shall be refined in future
>> revisions.
>> +Specific issues that are not addressed are marked as "TBD".
>> +
>> +-------------------------------------
>> +Suspend/Resume Implementation Details
>> +-------------------------------------
>> +
>> +PSCI Implementation and Integration
>> +-----------------------------------
>> +vSYSTEM_SUSPEND
>> +---------------
>> +vSYSTEM_SUSPEND shall be implemented in
>> +* do_psci_system_suspend() in arch/arm/vpsci.c
>> +
>> +The implementation shall include the following steps:
>> +* Block the current vCPU
>> +* If the hardware domain made the call trigger Xen suspend, i.e.
>> +  call machine_suspend() which will be implemented in arch/arm/suspend.c
>> + (similar as the machine_restart() is implemented in arch/arm/shutdown.c)
>> +
>> +The function do_psci_system_suspend() shall be called from
>> +* do_trap_psci() in arch/arm/traps.c
>> +
>> +CPU_OFF (physical CPUs)
>> +-----------------------
>> +The CPU_OFF function shall be implemented in
>> +* call_psci_cpu_off() in arch/arm/psci.c
>> +
>> +The implementation shall consist just of making the SMC call to EL3.
>> +
>> +This function needs to be called when Xen generic code disables non-boot
>> CPUs,
>> +which is done by
>> +* disable_nonboot_cpus() in common/cpu.c
>> +This function calls architecture specific
>> +* __cpu_die() implemented in arch/arm/smpboot.c
>> +The call_psci_cpu_off() shall be invoked when the respective CPU dies.
>> To make
>> +that happen, the
>> +* arch_cpu_die() would be implemented in arch/arm/arm64/smpboot.c
>> +and called from __cpu_die().
>> +Finally the call_psci_cpu_off() shall be invoked from arch_cpu_die().
>> +
>> +Such a control flow would be similar to the already existing flow for
>> enabling
>> +non-boot CPUs, which looks like this:
>> +enable_nonboot_cpus() -> cpu_up() -> __cpu_up() -> arch_cpu_up() ->
>> +call_psci_cpu_on()
>> +
>> +SYSTEM_SUSPEND (physical)
>> +-------------------------
>> +The SYSTEM_SUSPEND function shall be implemented in
>> +* call_psci_system_suspend() in arch/arm/psci.c
>> +
>> +The implementation shall consist just of making the SMC call to EL3. The
>> +entry_point_address argument of the SMC call needs to be an ARM
>> architecture
>> +resume address. The call_psci_system_suspend() function does not return.
>> +
>> +The function needs to be called from machine_suspend() to finalize the
>> suspend
>> +procedure.
>> +
>> +------------------
>> +Additional Changes
>> +------------------
>> +
>> +Suspend Flow
>> +------------
>> +The suspend procedure shall be implemented in
>> +* machine_suspend() in arch/arm/suspend.c
>> +
>> +The implementation shall include the following steps:
>> +* Set the system_state variable to SYS_STATE_suspend
>> +* Freeze domains by calling domain_pause() for each domain (we assume
>> this needs
>> +  to be done)
>>
> Why not triggering suspend on the guests?
>
>
This executes when the privileged guest calls vSYSTEM_SUSPEND. At that
point the privileged guest has already completed its suspend procedure
(vSYSTEM_SUSPEND is called to finalize the suspend). It is too late to
trigger suspend of unprivileged guests when the privileged guest is already
suspended.
Triggering suspend of unprivileged guests has to happen before the
privileged guest suspends. However, this is not covered by PSCI and is out
of scope (will be covered in the following proposals).

I hope this answers you questions, otherwise please let me know.

Thanks,
Mirela


>
> +* Disable non-boot CPUs by calling disable_nonboot_cpus()
>> +* Save ARM specific context
>> +
>> +Resume Flow
>> +------------
>> +The resume procedure shall be implemented in
>> +* machine_resume() in arch/arm/suspend.c
>> +
>> +The machine_resume() implementation shall include the following steps:
>> +* Restore ARM specific context
>> +* Enable non-boot CPUs by calling enable_nonboot_cpus()
>> +* Thaw domains by calling domain_unpause() for each domain (we assume
>> this needs
>> +  to be done)
>> +* Set the system_state variable to SYS_STATE_resume
>> +* TBD: how to resume Dom0, i.e. how to hand over control to Dom0?
>> +
>> +==========
>> +References
>> +==========
>> +
>> +[1] Power State Coordination Interface (ARM):
>> +http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.den0022d/
>> Power_State_Coordination_Interface_PDD_v1_1_DEN0022D.pdf
>> +
>>
>
> --
>
> *Andrii Anisov*
>
>
>
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