Hi George,

Sorry for the late answer.

On 16/02/2022 12:23, George Dunlap wrote:


On Feb 16, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Jan Beulich <jbeul...@suse.com> wrote:

On 16.02.2022 12:34, George Dunlap wrote:

I am opposed to overloading “ASSERT” for this new kind of macro; I think it 
would not only be unnecessarily confusing to people not familiar with our 
codebase, but it would be too easy for people to fail to notice which macro was 
being used.

ASSERT_ACTION(condition, code) (or even ASSERT_OR_ACTION()) would be a bare 
minimum for me.

But I can’t imagine that there are more than a handful of actions we might want 
to take, so defining a macro for each one shouldn’t be too burdensome.

Furthermore, the very flexibility seems dangerous; you’re not seeing what 
actual code is generated, so it’s to easy to be “clever”, and/or write code 
that ends up doing something different than you expect.

At the moment I think ASSERT_OR_RETURN(condition, code), plus other new macros 
for the other behavior is needed, would be better.

Hmm, while I see your point of things possibly looking confusing or
unexpected, something like ASSERT_OR_RETURN() (shouldn't it be
ASSERT_AND_RETURN()?) is imo less readable. In particular I dislike
the larger amount of uppercase text. But yes, I could accept this
as a compromise as it still seems better to me than the multi-line
constructs we currently use.

I see what you’re saying with AND/OR; I personally still prefer OR but wouldn’t 
argue to hard against AND if others preferred it.

As far as I’m concerned, the fact that we’re reducing lines of code isn’t a 
reason to use this at all.  As our CODING_STYLE says, ASSERT() is just a louder 
printk.  We would never consider writing PRINTK_AND_RETURN(), and we would 
never consider writing a macro like CONDRET(condition, retval) to replace

if (condition)
     return retval;

The only justification for this kind of macro, in my opinion, is to avoid 
duplication errors; i.e. replacing your code segment with the following:

if (condition) {
     ASSERT(!condition);
     return foo;
}

is undesirable because there’s too much risk that the conditions will drift or 
be inverted incorrectly. But having control statements like ‘return’ and 
‘continue’ in a macro is also undesirable in my opinion; I’m personally not 
sure which I find most undesirable.

I guess one advantage of something like ASSERT_OR(condition, return foo); or 
ASSERT_OR(condition, continue); is that searching for “return” or “continue” 
will come up even if you’re doing a case-sensitive search.  But I’m still wary 
of unintended side effects.

Bertrand / Julien, any more thoughts?
The discussion reminds me WARN_ONCE() in Linux. The macro returns a value so it can be used like:

if (WARN_ONCE(...))
  return error;

How about introducing a new macro that would return whether the check passed and if the check failed crashed in debug build?

I am not suggesting to modify ASSERT() because the compiler may decide to not ellide check in production build. Also, the name feels a little bit odd.

Cheers,

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Julien Grall

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