> On 24 Jun 2022, at 13:17, Julien Grall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/06/2022 13:01, Luca Fancellu wrote:
>> Hi Julien,
> 
> Hi Luca,
> 
>>>> +First recommendation is to use exactly the same version in this page and 
>>>> provide
>>>> +the same option to the build system, so that every Xen developer can 
>>>> reproduce
>>>> +the same findings.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure I agree. I think it is good that each developper use their 
>>> own version (so long it is supported), so they may be able to find issues 
>>> that may not appear with 2.7.
>> Yes I understand, but as Bertrand says, other version of this tool doesn’t 
>> work quite well. 
> 
> I have replied to this on Bertrand e-mail.
> 
> 
>> I agree that everyone should use their own version, but for the sake of 
>> reproducibility
>> of the findings, I think we should have a common ground.
> 
> I will reply to this below.
> 
>> The community can however propose from time to time to bump the version as 
>> long as we can say it works (maybe
>> crossing the reports between cppcheck, eclair, other proprietary tools).
> 
> This would mean we should de-support 2.7 which sounds wrong if it worked 
> before.

Sure, I guess that as long as we don’t see regressions from version X to X+1 we 
are fine with versions >= X.

>>> 
>>>> +
>>>> +Install cppcheck in the system
>>> 
>>> NIT: s/in/on/ I think.
>> Sure will fix
>>> 
>>>> +==============================
>>>> +
>>>> +Cppcheck can be retrieved from the github repository or by downloading the
>>>> +tarball, the version tested so far is the 2.7:
>>>> +
>>>> + - https://github.com/danmar/cppcheck/tree/2.7
>>>> + - https://github.com/danmar/cppcheck/archive/2.7.tar.gz
>>>> +
>>>> +To compile and install it, here the complete command line:
>>>> +
>>>> +make MATCHCOMPILER=yes \
>>>> + FILESDIR=/usr/share/cppcheck \
>>>> + CFGDIR=/usr/share/cppcheck/cfg \
>>>> + HAVE_RULES=yes \
>>>> + CXXFLAGS="-O2 -DNDEBUG -Wall -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-unused-function" \
>>>> + install
>>> 
>>> Let me start that I am not convinced that our documentation should explain 
>>> how to build cppcheck.
>>> 
>>> But if that's desire, then I think you ought to explain why we need to 
>>> update CXXFLAGS (I would expect cppcheck to build everywhere without 
>>> specifying additional flags).
>> Yes you are right, this is the recommended command line for building as in 
>> https://github.com/danmar/cppcheck/blob/main/readme.md section GNU make, I 
>> can add the source.
> 
> I think we should remove the command line and tell the user to read the 
> cppcheck README.md.

Ok sounds good to me

> 
>> My intention when writing this page was to have a common ground between Xen 
>> developers, so that if one day someone came up with a fix for something, we 
>> are able to reproduce
>> the finding all together.
> Well, if someone find a fix you want to check against all versions not the 
> one that warns. Otherwise, you can end up in a situation where you silence 
> cppcheck 2.10 (just making up a version) but then introduce a warning in 
> cppcheck 2.7.
> 
> To me this is no different than other software used to build Xen. We don't 
> tell the user that they should always build with GCC x.y.z. Instead, we 
> provide a minimum version. This has multiple benefits:
> 1) The user doesn't need to rebuild the software and can use the one provided 
> by the distributions
> 2) Different versions find different (most of the time) valid bugs. So we are 
> getting towards a better codebase.
> 

Ok I see your point, instead of saying “we use version X.Y, I will say >=X.Y”, 
your comment on Bertrand’s reply is on this line.

I would keep the section about compiling cppcheck since many recent distro 
doesn’t provide cppcheck >=2.7 yet (and 2.8 is broken),
If you agree with it.

For this one:
> 
> Thanks for the information. How about writing something like:
> 
> "
> The minimum version required for cppcheck is 2.7. Note that at the time of 
> writing (June 2022), the version 2.8 is known to be broken [1].
> "
> 
> [1] 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/cppcheck/discussion/general/thread/bfc3ab6c41/?limit=25
> 
> 

Sure, I can add it and rephrase that section.

Cheers,
Luca


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