On 22.09.25 13:09, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 08:42:30PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 05:27:20PM +0200, Jürgen Groß wrote:
On 22.08.25 16:42, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 04:39:33PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
Hi,
When suspending domU I get the following issue:
Freezing user space processes
Freezing user space processes failed after 20.004 seconds (1 tasks
refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0):
task:xl state:D stack:0 pid:466 tgid:466 ppid:1
task_flags:0x400040 flags:0x00004006
Call Trace:
<TASK>
__schedule+0x2f3/0x780
schedule+0x27/0x80
schedule_preempt_disabled+0x15/0x30
__mutex_lock.constprop.0+0x49f/0x880
unregister_xenbus_watch+0x216/0x230
xenbus_write_watch+0xb9/0x220
xenbus_file_write+0x131/0x1b0
vfs_writev+0x26c/0x3d0
? do_writev+0xeb/0x110
do_writev+0xeb/0x110
do_syscall_64+0x84/0x2c0
? do_syscall_64+0x200/0x2c0
? generic_handle_irq+0x3f/0x60
? syscall_exit_work+0x108/0x140
? do_syscall_64+0x200/0x2c0
? __irq_exit_rcu+0x4c/0xe0
entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x76/0x7e
RIP: 0033:0x79b618138642
RSP: 002b:00007fff9a192fc8 EFLAGS: 00000246 ORIG_RAX: 0000000000000014
RAX: ffffffffffffffda RBX: 00000000024fd490 RCX: 000079b618138642
RDX: 0000000000000003 RSI: 00007fff9a193120 RDI: 0000000000000014
RBP: 00007fff9a193000 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 0000000000000000
R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 0000000000000246 R12: 0000000000000014
R13: 00007fff9a193120 R14: 0000000000000003 R15: 0000000000000000
</TASK>
OOM killer enabled.
Restarting tasks: Starting
Restarting tasks: Done
xen:manage: do_suspend: freeze processes failed -16
The process in question is `xl devd` daemon. It's a domU serving a
xenvif backend.
I noticed it on 6.16.1, but looking at earlier test logs I see it with
6.16-rc6 already (but interestingly, not 6.16-rc2 yet? feels weird given
seemingly no relevant changes between rc2 and rc6).
I forgot to include link for (a little) more details:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-linux-kernel/pull/1157
Especially, there is another call trace with panic_on_warn enabled -
slightly different, but looks related.
I'm pretty sure the PV variant for suspending is just wrong: it is calling
dpm_suspend_start() from do_suspend() without taking the required
system_transition_mutex, resulting in the WARN() in pm_restrict_gfp_mask().
It might be as easy as just adding the mutex() call to do_suspend(), but I'm
really not sure that will be a proper fix.
Hm, this might explain the second call trace, but not the freeze failure
quoted here above, I think?
While the patch I sent appears to fix this particular issue, it made me
wonder: is there any fundamental reason why do_suspend() is not using
pm_suspend() and register Xen-specific actions via platform_suspend_ops
(and maybe syscore_ops)? From a brief look at the code, it should
theoretically be possible, and should avoid issues like this.
I tried to do a quick&dirty attempt at that[1], and it failed (panic). I
surely made several mistakes there (and also left a ton of todo
comments). But before spending any more time at that, I'd like to ask
if this is a viable option at all.
I think it might, but be careful with this, because there are two "System Low
power" paths in Linux
1) Suspend2RAM and Co
2) Hybernation
While "Suspend2RAM and Co" path is relatively straight forward and expected to
be always
started through pm_suspend(). In general, it's expected to happen
- from sysfs (User space)
- from autosuspend (wakelocks).
the "hibernation" path is more complicated:(
- Genuine Linux hybernation hibernate()/hibernate_quiet_exec()
I'm not sure what path Xen originally implemented :( It seems like
"suspend2RAM",
but, at the same time "hybernation" specific staff is used, like
PMSG_FREEZE/PMSG_THAW/PMSG_RESTORE.
As result, Linux suspend/hybernation code moves forward while Xen stays behind
and unsync.
So it sounds reasonable to avoid custom implementation, but may be not easy :(
Suspending Xen features can be split between suspend stages, but
not sure if platform_suspend_ops can be used.
Generic suspend stages list
- freeze
- prepare
- suspend
- suspend_late
- suspend_noirq (SPIs disabled, except wakeups)
[most of Xen specific staff has to be suspended at this point]
- disable_secondary_cpus
- arch disable IRQ (from this point no IRQs allowed, no timers, no scheduling)
- syscore_suspend
[rest here]
- platform->enter() (suspended)
You can't just overwrite platform_suspend_ops, because ARM64 is expected to
enter
suspend through PSCI FW interface:
drivers/firmware/psci/psci.c
static const struct platform_suspend_ops psci_suspend_ops = {
As an option, some Xen components could be converted to use syscore_ops (but
not xenstore),
and some might need to use DD(dev_pm_ops).
[1]
https://github.com/marmarek/linux/commit/47cfdb991c85566c9c333570511e67bf477a5da6
--
Best regards,
-grygorii
