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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Beulich <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2025 10:29 PM
> To: Penny, Zheng <[email protected]>
> Cc: Huang, Ray <[email protected]>; Daniel P. Smith
> <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Andryuk, Jason
> <[email protected]>; Stabellini, Stefano <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/26] xen/domctl: wrap xsm_getdomaininfo() with
> CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS
>
> On 25.09.2025 11:41, Penny, Zheng wrote:
> > [Public]
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jan Beulich <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2025 9:30 PM
> >> To: Penny, Zheng <[email protected]>
> >> Cc: Huang, Ray <[email protected]>; Daniel P. Smith
> >> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/26] xen/domctl: wrap xsm_getdomaininfo()
> >> with CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS
> >>
> >> On 10.09.2025 09:38, Penny Zheng wrote:
> >>> --- a/xen/include/xsm/xsm.h
> >>> +++ b/xen/include/xsm/xsm.h
> >>> @@ -55,8 +55,8 @@ struct xsm_ops {
> >>>      void (*security_domaininfo)(struct domain *d,
> >>>                                  struct xen_domctl_getdomaininfo *info);
> >>>      int (*domain_create)(struct domain *d, uint32_t ssidref);
> >>> -    int (*getdomaininfo)(struct domain *d);
> >>>  #ifdef CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS
> >>> +    int (*getdomaininfo)(struct domain *d);
> >>>      int (*domctl_scheduler_op)(struct domain *d, int op);
> >>>      int (*sysctl_scheduler_op)(int op);
> >>>      int (*set_target)(struct domain *d, struct domain *e); @@
> >>> -234,7
> >>> +234,11 @@ static inline int xsm_domain_create(
> >>>
> >>>  static inline int xsm_getdomaininfo(xsm_default_t def, struct
> >>> domain
> >>> *d)  {
> >>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS
> >>>      return alternative_call(xsm_ops.getdomaininfo, d);
> >>> +#else
> >>> +    return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> >>> +#endif
> >>>  }
> >>
> >> This is in use by a Xenstore sysctl and a Xenstore domctl. The sysctl
> >> is hence already broken with the earlier series. Now the domctl is
> >> also being screwed up. I don't think MGMT_HYPERCALLS really ought to
> >> extend to any operations available to other than the core toolstack.
> >> That's the Xenstore ones here, but also the ones used by qemu (whether run 
> >> in
> Dom0 or a stubdom).
> >
> > Maybe not only limited to the core toolstack. In dom0less/hyperlaunched
> scenarios, hypercalls are strictly limited. QEMU is also limited to pvh 
> machine type
> and with very restricted functionality(, only acting as a few virtio-pci 
> devices
> backend). @Andryuk, Jason @Stabellini, Stefano Am I understanding correctly 
> and
> thoroughly about our scenario here for upstream?
> > Tracking the codes, if Xenstore is created as a stub domain, it requires
> getdomaininfo-domctl to acquire related info.  Sorry, I haven't found how it 
> was
> called in QEMU...
>
> It's not "it"; it's different ones. First and foremost I was thinking of
>  * XEN_DOMCTL_ioport_mapping
>  * XEN_DOMCTL_memory_mapping
>  * XEN_DOMCTL_bind_pt_irq
>  * XEN_DOMCTL_unbind_pt_irq
> but there may be others (albeit per the dummy xsm_domctl() this is the full 
> set). As
> a general criteria, anything using XSM_DM_PRIV checking can in principle be
> called by qemu.
>

Understood.
I assume that they are all for device passthrough. We are not accepting device 
passthrough via core toolstack in dom0less/hyperlaunch-ed scenarios. Jason has 
developed device passthrough through device tree to only accept "static 
configured" passthrough in dom0less/hyperlaunch-ed scenario, while it is still 
internal , it may be the only accept way to do device passthrough in 
dom0less/hyperlaunch-ed scenario.
The major role of QEMU in dom0less/hyperlaunch-ed scenario is to provide 
limited virtio-pci devices backend. So we need hypercalls majorly involving 
ioreq server, event channel, virtual interrupt injection and foreign memory 
mapping, which shall not use 
XSM_DM_PRIV(xsm_iomem_permission()/xsm_irq_permission()/xsm_iomem_mapping()) 
checking, I assume.

> Jan

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