> On 17 Jul 2020, at 16:41, Roger Pau Monné <roger....@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 02:34:55PM +0000, Bertrand Marquis wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Jul 2020, at 16:06, Jan Beulich <jbeul...@suse.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 17.07.2020 15:59, Bertrand Marquis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Jul 2020, at 15:19, Jan Beulich <jbeul...@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17.07.2020 15:14, Bertrand Marquis wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17 Jul 2020, at 10:10, Jan Beulich <jbeul...@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16.07.2020 19:10, Rahul Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>> # Emulated PCI device tree node in libxl:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Libxl is creating a virtual PCI device tree node in the device tree to 
>>>>>>>> enable the guest OS to discover the virtual PCI during guest boot. We 
>>>>>>>> introduced the new config option [vpci="pci_ecam"] for guests. When 
>>>>>>>> this config option is enabled in a guest configuration, a PCI device 
>>>>>>>> tree node will be created in the guest device tree.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I support Stefano's suggestion for this to be an optional thing, i.e.
>>>>>>> there to be no need for it when there are PCI devices assigned to the
>>>>>>> guest anyway. I also wonder about the pci_ prefix here - isn't
>>>>>>> vpci="ecam" as unambiguous?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This could be a problem as we need to know that this is required for a 
>>>>>> guest upfront so that PCI devices can be assigned after using xl. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm afraid I don't understand: When there are no PCI device that get
>>>>> handed to a guest when it gets created, but it is supposed to be able
>>>>> to have some assigned while already running, then we agree the option
>>>>> is needed (afaict). When PCI devices get handed to the guest while it
>>>>> gets constructed, where's the problem to infer this option from the
>>>>> presence of PCI devices in the guest configuration?
>>>> 
>>>> If the user wants to use xl pci-attach to attach in runtime a device to a 
>>>> guest, this guest must have a VPCI bus (even with no devices).
>>>> If we do not have the vpci parameter in the configuration this use case 
>>>> will not work anymore.
>>> 
>>> That's what everyone looks to agree with. Yet why is the parameter needed
>>> when there _are_ PCI devices anyway? That's the "optional" that Stefano
>>> was suggesting, aiui.
>> 
>> I agree in this case the parameter could be optional and only required if 
>> not PCI device is assigned directly in the guest configuration.
> 
> Where will the ECAM region(s) appear on the guest physmap?
> 
> Are you going to re-use the same locations as on the physical
> hardware, or will they appear somewhere else?

We will add some new definitions for the ECAM regions in the guest physmap 
declared in xen (include/asm-arm/config.h)
So they will appear at a different address then the hardware.

Bertrand

> 
> Roger.

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