Maybe I should have followed these signals earlier, my response is really
slow ... but I didn't have clear picture about how the whole thing works
among involved vendors and their interests, and I simply couldn't devote my
time enough for this even if I knew. So, almost a year later Red Hat decided
to abandon Itanium and Xen (will it change much after Tukwila ?) ... when
you say Debian, you mean Suse, and it hasn't got Xen on IA64 yet - maybe it
will have it in the future ? HP is not just more Debian-centric, it develops
low sensitivity towards linux and open source in general. Recent advance
about HP's BladeSystem (Matrix) SIM s/w infrastructure includes support for
Hyper-V, VMWare and XenServer virtualization platforms - KVM or Xen not even
announced, but OS support remains (RHEL, Suse). On the other hand, I am
interested in SAP (also supports RHEL and Suse, and Xen, too) and Oracle
roadmaps which still welcome Linux and open source as critical business
models. For me it is not option to leave Itanium at the moment, and I would
like to see what is the future of Xen and Linux commercial distros on it in
future. Here is what I have at the moment, more will follow on soon:


2009/4/17 John L. Bass <>

> I agree Redhat managment are being idiots here, after all this is
> supposed to be the debugging ground for IA64 RedHat. The next problem
> behind this one, is that this Cowboy distro is not a Fedora sanctioned
> port/distribution either, and somebody is going to ask that all the
> Fedora trademarked references be removed from the cowboy distribution.
> At that point, why bother at all. I plan to support Ubuntu starting this
> summer when I have some more time. With HP being increasingly Debian
> based over RedHat, and growing around  the Ubuntu market, that seems to
> be the new distro of choice.
> Intel certainly isn't footing the bill for IA64 Fedora, so it seems a
> lost cause at this point.
> other ideas, insights, comments, or suggestions welcome.
> Have fun,
> John
> Dave Bowman wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Luck, Tony <
> > <>> wrote:
> >
> >     Presumably it was the "hat" part that they objected too?  So
> >     choose something
> >     that is as far from a hat as possible, but still cowboy themed:
> >     "cowboyboot Linux"?
> >
> >     Only similarity with "redhat" is that both end in the letter "t"
> >     ... the world will officially
> >     be crazy if the lawyers deem that to be infringing :-)
> >
> >
> > I agree, but as an individual I don't have a good way to defend myself
> > against Red Hat and their team of lawyers.
> >
> >
> >     How does version control in Fedora work?  If you heard a rumor
> >     that fedora was building,
> >     installing and booting on x86 on some particular day: could you
> >     find out what versions
> >     of each package they used and replicate the setup? Or is it just a
> >     crapshoot and you
> >     get the latest of everything, so you take your chances that it
> >     wasn't broken between
> >     it working on x86 and you starting your build?
> >
> >
> > In theory this would be possible but very difficult.  Individual
> > packages are versioned so if you knew what version of anaconda worked
> > you could try that.  I honestly don't have the time to put quite that
> > much effort into this.
> >
> > On another note.... you work for Intel right?  I had hear that Intel
> > had been looking into hosting the koji server so we could have a
> > _real_ Fedora ia64 again.  Do you know anything about that?
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
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