On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 16:45 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: > Philippe Gerum wrote: > >> Still, reinitializing X while the latency test runs causes > >> the latter to hang, albeit LOC is still flowing properly and the box > >> keeps going normally. > > > > This one was due to the nucleus watchdog which triggered right after the > > graphic mode was fully initialized, due to the huge amount of > > unpreemptible time spent doing this; this caused the sampling task to be > > detected as a runaway thread. So the behaviour is ok, albeit a bit > > frightening at first. > > > > That reminds of the unfortunate characteristics of the 2.6 oom-killer: > unless you set your time-critical app's oom_adj to -17, you are never > really safe from being killed accidentally on low-mem scenarios. > > What about introducing some mechanism to protect audited tasks against > the watchdog? A simple thread flag settable via existing APIs, ignored > if there is no watchdog compiled in?
There is a fundamental difference between the OOM killer and the Xenomai watchdog: the latter is merely a debugging tool to prevent the box to hang, and you can disable it completely. The situations reported by the watchdog are pathological ones, which involve more than 4 seconds of continuous real-time activity while the Linux kernel is being totally starved from CPU, and in such a case, you really want someone to pull the brake, regardless of the consequences on the application (which looks like basically toast anyway). IOW, if such weird situation eventually ends up being considered as "normal" under certain circumstances, the best approach is simply to disable the watchdog entirely. Limiting the runtime quantum allotted to threads through a dedicated scheduling policy would be a better way to deal with CPU overconsumption "intelligently", i.e. on a per-thread basis. OTOH, the current watchdog implementation is aiming at being terminally dumb for the sake of debug efficiency. -- Philippe. _______________________________________________ Xenomai-core mailing list Xenomaiemail@example.com https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/xenomai-core