Jean-Luc Pamart wrote:
> Jan Kiszka a écrit :
>> Jean-Luc Pamart wrote:
>>  
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I am a newbie with Xeno. My goal for the beginning of 2007 is to launch
>>> a project for 4 french studiants : a box with Linux embedded and a usb
>>> camera. The embedded application will analyse the movies in Real time
>>> and lead a mobile machine with CAN-BUS.
>>> Now i play with Xeno for my knowledge (without specific hardware) :  a
>>> little linux installed in a usb key with a little embedded distrib
>>>
>>> - vanilla kernel 2.6.16 with patch for usb [.config is joint]
>>> - Xenomai 2.1.2
>>> - essentially BusyBox
>>> - for xenomai : only "latency" directory and libs in usr/libs
>>> I have checked "SMI woraround" for the kernel.
>>> In BIOS I have UNchecked  "legacy usb".
>>>
>>>
>>> my Desktop PC (a AMD ATHLON) can boot with this little vanilla kernel
>>> and
>>> 1/ a little embedded distrib of my own
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>>> 2/ a complete mandrake 9.1 on a partition of a classic hard disk
>>>
>>> I have 2 differents problems when I lauch this :
>>>
>>> 1/ with the linux embedded directories on the usb key
>>> high latency > 100 us are ok ? perhaps usb work is not compatible
>>> with RT ?
>>>     
>>
>> Try loading the standard USB drivers (at least uhci_hcd) if they aren't
>> yet. Actually, I've seen boxes (granted, they were far older) where I
>> had to switch legacy USB *on* to avoid disturbances. In any case, check
>> carefully if you followed all tips in TROUBLESHOOTING regarding latency
>> issues (APM, ACPI, etc.).
>>
>>  
>>> 2/ with the complete mandrake 9.1 :
>>> it crashes X after 1 or few minutes.
>>> What is the relation between X and Xenomai ?
>>> Is Xenomai compatible with X ?
>>>     
>>
>> Yes, as long as X is not playing against us, e.g. by hard-disabling
>> interrupts or doing (too) evil things on the buses. Any non-GPL driver
>> in this game here (NVidia&Co)? Better avoid this. Also try to disable
>> accelerated mode in your X setup to see if things improve.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>   
> Ok , for the box with a vanilla kernel I will try the differents
> possibilities. Actually i disable
> a max of things ...
> 
> For the box with X : the big surprise was : very goods latencies
> (comparativeley with no X !!)
> Why ????
> (Before crashing)

If it turns out to be an ACPI/APM issue, X may keep your box busier than
plain text mode, thus avoid those latency peaks by keeping it out of
certain sleep modes - well, an attempt to explain something I can't with
the currently available information...

> 
> for crashing
> I 'll verify theses 2 points :
> nvidia driver
> accelerated mode  : Is it a x server setup ?
> 

See Gilles' reply => XF86Config.

Jan


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