In case you are not subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], someone proposed to move the XML standards-based files and common tools (e.g. DOM in xml-xerces/c/src/dom, SAX in xml-xerces/c/src/sax ..) to a common apache project - AXDK (Apache XML Development Kit, xml-commons/c). Please discuss your idea in [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any comment regarding this proposal. Tinny
I propose a new xml.apache.org/xml-commons subproject to fulfill the need for a central repository for various XML standards-based files and common tools. COMMITTERS-PLEASE-VOTE! Although I'm not sure of the exact voting procedure for creating whole new subprojects, I'm hoping to see a bunch of +1's to start with; feel free to either reply-to or use the handy mini-xml ballot below. NON-COMMITTERS-PLEASE-DISCUSS! While votes from non-committers are not binding your discussion and insights are very valuable! Key: committer="your_apache_login" email="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Leave committer blank if you aren't; vote must be +1 | 0 | -1 Add comment(s) if you like on specific issues <ballot committer="" email=""> <vote issue="xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1" vote =""><comment></comment></vote> <vote issue="xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1-committers" vote =""><comment></comment></vote> </ballot> <xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1> Proposal: form a new xml.apache.org subproject called xml-commons to fulfill the below needs. (0) Rationale: Many xml.apache.org projects use and ship with sets of similar externally-defined standards-based code; differences in versioning and configuration of this code often make developing and using our projects more difficult. A common place for all xml.apache.org projects to get DOM, SAX, JAXP, and other externally-defined code would be a fairly low-cost and low-maintenance way to alleviate these difficulties. Having a subproject and a community focused on cross-xml-subproject issues will also help drive better cross-project coordination and tooling. (0.1) Programming Languages: While the coding details of Java/C/Perl/etc are obviously different, the core concept is the same: a central repository for all xml.apache.org projects to share common interfaces and utilities. We should start with xml-commons/java, xml-commons/c, and xml-commons/perl since these languages are in current use in various xml.apache.org subprojects today. (1) Scope of this subproject: (1.1) Common externally-defined standards: This includes the packages: org.w3c.dom.**, org.xml.sax.**, and javax.xml. ** This is designed to essentially be an xml.apache.org-specific holding place for commonly-used interfaces/headers that are created outside of Apache. This subproject should provide guidelines and build scripts to aid xml.apache.org groups to easily use these common files in a common manner across all subprojects. This subproject should provide some basic versioning abilities so that xml.apache.org projects temporarily using new/beta/updated/proposed versions of these specs can continue to get their code from this area. (1.2) Common xml-oriented utilities: We should also include additional utilities/common code in this subproject, like current copies of bsf.jar, stylebook, servlet API classes, etc. This could also include code that did originate in an Apache project, that we wanted to centralize the use of: SystemIDResolver, XML Serializers, etc. (1.3) General project starting guidelines for future directions/scope: While the details of guidelines for this work should be finalized by the community that forms it (along with input from the other xml.apache.org projects who will be using this code), there are some basics to start with: - Communicate status regularly with [EMAIL PROTECTED] and with other subprojects - Clearly document and checkin 'best practices' for usage of xml-commons code in other subprojects - Proactively work with other subprojects to implement and improve our 'best practices' - Provide upgrade paths and help; deprecate (or equivalent) old API's before removing, so other subprojects have ample time to upgrade. - Test and document all non-standards-based code; provide tests/additional documentation for standards-based code (1.4) General guidelines for future directions/scope: Note this is firstly a subproject to make life inside of xml.apache.org easier, to enable us to more efficiently develop nifty XML projects. As we gain experience in developing this subproject, an obvious future direction for this community will be to work on a potential AXDK (Apache XML Development Kit) that would be a meta-packaging-project composed out of several xml projects together. The AXDK would be a way to make life for end-users easier: a single package of various Apache XML tools that works 'out of the box'. (AXDK naming credit to kellyc I think?) (1.5) Interaction with other subprojects Additional guidelines can be drawn up on [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this subproject, and then documented and checked in. These should include both how other xml subprojects should use these resources in their development cycles, as well as how all xml subprojects should package these resources when creating public, shipped distributions (to avoid version conflicts, etc.) This subproject's community, along with [EMAIL PROTECTED], will need to draw up guidelines for code within this subproject as well. (2) Identify the initial source from which the subproject is to be populated: Standards-based sources would be obtained from the relevant owners/creators and checked into the project repository. A basic build.xml file and apache project usage guidelines would need to be created. Possible legal review would be needed for licensed files (one solution might be to waive the Apache license on these files). For common xml-oriented utilities, the initial sources can be moved in from other xml.apache.org subprojects (cf. potential org.apache.xml.utils.SystemIdResolver from xml-xalan). (3) Identify the xml.apache.org resources to be created (3.1) mailing list(s) xml-commons-dev (3.2) CVS repositories xml-commons (3.3) Bugzilla program: Commons components: External Standards, Common XML Utils <xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1-committers> A sub-issue that I'd like people to vote on separately for whichever of the below option(s) they like best. (4) Identify the initial set of committers (4.a) [vote-multiple] kellyc, curcuru, rubys (4.b) [vote-multiple] one committer from each xml.apache.org subproject that wants to volunteer, plus at least one PMC member (for projects that don't get someone volunteered) (4.c) [vote-multiple] all current xml.apache.org committers </xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1-committers> </xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1> (*) Important cross-reference: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/index.html Jakarta is currently working on a similar, yet different, tool/util/common code area. While we can steal a lot of their ideas, I think the needs of xml.apache.org will be different than Jakarta, so we should make our own community decision on how to do this. Many thanks to the nice format for a proposal that I plagarized. 8-) - Shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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