Lenny raises one of two important questions, in my mind: if the current
IDOM* classes are going to be renamed DOM*, what chould the current DOM*
classes be named? His proposal is reasonable; we might also consider
something of the form DOMH_*, so you only have to scan the prefix to know
which interface you're using.

The second question: does a change of this magnitude warrant treating this
as a major revision and bumping the version to 2.0? I would argue that it
does, as the API will be broken for everyone, since all the classes will be
renamed. Even without such breakage, promoting IDOM from experimental to the
preferred approach, with the concomitant change in memory management, seems
like a major change.

Lenny: I really appreciate your efforts to address IDOM's issues. I'm still
using the DOM interface, in part because the IDOM didn't feel quite baked; I
think you've done the Xerces community a real service by raising questions
the questions you have, and proposing solutions.

-jesse-

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenny Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Call for Vote: which one to be the Xerces-C++ public
supported W3C DOM interface


Hi Tinny,

I have no problem with your direction.  I will rework my patch consistent
with the discussion (simplify handles to not replicate IDOM methods, make
reference counting optional, make thread safe reference counting optional)
and re-base it on the latest nightly build (2002-05-03) -- it was based on
1.6.  This should take me at least a few days (given my other
responsibilities). I will attach it to 5967 when done.

BTW, the handles are no longer backward compatible with the original DOM_
classes, and thus should follow a different naming convention.  Since you
are renaming the IDOM_* classes to DOM*, perhaps the handles could be named
DOM*_h.  This is just my initial thought, you may have a better idea.

Thanks,

Lenny

-----Original Message-----
From: Tinny Ng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Call for Vote: which one to be the Xerces-C++ public
supported W3C DOM interface


Based on all the discussion and votes above, here is the count:

Vote Question:
============
    ==>  Which INTERFACE should be the Xerces-C++ public supported W3C DOM
Interface, DOM or IDOM? <===

Vote Count:
=========
14 people has joined the discussion, 3 of them didn't cast a vote explicitly
so I didn't count them in, and the result is

IDOM         9 votes where 2 of them vote with a condition (provided that
memory retained issue can be fixed)
old DOM     2 votes

Based on above votes result, here is my proposal:

Since most users like IDOM interface, and in fact the 2 votes for the old
DOM are suggesting to use IDOM interface internally which sounds like just
another implementation of IDOM.

So I would like to move on to post IDOM interface as the Apache Recommended
C++ DOM Bindings for implementation and as the *RAW* user interface.

But to satisfy those who really like smart pointer approach, the old DOM
will be kept as a viable alternative user interface in addition to the
recommended "RAW" user interface.   With Lenny's patch, this old DOM is also
based on the IDOM interface and thus does not "violate" our  Apache C++ DOM
Bindings for  implementation recommendation.   The old DOM interface will
not be deprecated, but will not be promoted as the primary DOM user
interface.   The samples will be removed, but the programming guide will
remain and will be documented as a viable alterative user interface for
particular users' preference.   And for new development (like DOM Level 3),
IDOM is the first priority.

As for implementation detail, Lenny's patch against the old DOM will be
reviewed and applied (provided the *RAW* IDOM interface users are not
penalized by any performance degradation with this patch, but even if it
does, we will then guard the code with build variation)

And for IDOM memory retained issue, we will review all the alternatives to
see what's the best solution.   Also if no one objects, then we will go
ahead and rename IDOM_XXX to DOMXXX as well.

Any comment with this approach?

Tinny

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